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submitted 6 days ago by Yliaster@lemmy.world to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

Proton VPN/mail. It's often recommended as being safe, but I'm not so sure.

It has servers in Israel. Ties to Israel are never a good thing. Palantir, Epstein, etc are tied to Israel, and Israel also is known for its surveillance. It is also true that it's completely legal there for them to access and monitor any and all information that passes through VPNs or networks there.

I'm looking for a safe alternative that's privacy-conscious and isn't linked to Israel. Both mail and vpn (it's fine if they're separate). Please let me know if you guys know.

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[-] Yliaster@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I responded to the aspects of your argument that weren't personal attacks. Personal attacks, yes, I am not interested in.

''Industry standard'' doesn't mean anything. Government surveillance and everything this sub stands against is ''industry standard''. Just because everyone's doing it doesn't mean it's a good thing.

I ''singled out'' Proton because it was the VPN I used the most prior. I'm not sure why that's a problem.

Are you able to discuss things based on criticisms of logical reasoning and evidence, or are you going to continue to respond with personal attacks? I am open to critique.

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