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7%. Pathetic. I honestly can't believe things have turned out this way. We were pioneers in this market and now the same person who created it has actively contributed to its' destruction.
He didn't create jack shit. He bought into a wave that had already been rising and took all the credit because it was his money funding the ads. But he got involved late and had little to no involvement in design. He was happy to destroy it because he sees more money in cozying up to this administration, getting regulations relaxed, and getting government subsides for his other investments.
Just don't ever give him credit as a creator of any kind. He wrote some shitty early code for PayPal in the 90s or something. That's the most he's ever "created."
I mean I'm pretty sure the tens of millions of dollars he invested helped a little bit.
Putting money into something does not make you a creator. Investor, sure. Patron, maybe. Not a creator.
Agree to disagree I suppose.
He did help push it forward in a couple ways that I don't think others would have.
One is that he just didn't give a fuck about regulation or established procedures. Two is that he did have a focus on affordability. Three is that he demanded a lot out of his employees largely driven (for them) by being for the greater good.
A lot of his success has come from employees who were dedicated to the cause. It's why both Tesla and SpaceX had done so well, while Twitter and Tesla robots will flounder
Some of that likely came out of him being a shitbag in various ways where he lucked into the right circumstances for that attitude.
The world isn't black and white. He should get some credit for Tesla. And he should get credit for the current ways he's dismantling Tesla and the US.
Don't forget the EV1. People stole them so they wouldn't get crushed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1
Blame the manufacturers for making disposable, non-repairable crap EVs.
Look at the resale market for 5+ year old EVs. They’re practically worthless. Turns out they’re full of proprietary parts that can’t be replaced with after market alternatives, so people are forced to buy from the manufacturer who charges more than the car is worth.
For some reason, the car companies thought they could get away with forcing people into the buy-discard-rebuy cycles that we have for smartphones. That hasn’t worked so far. Americans believe that cars should be a long term investment, not a disposable commodity.
Last bit of evidence is look at the fleet vehicle market. Rental car companies have dumped their EV fleets due to the cost of repairs and replacements.
Odd that it's only a problem in the USA.
Europe has better consumer protection laws, longer mandatory warranty, and so on.
It’s not a problem inherent to electric cars!
What kind of "repairable, non-disposable crap" do you think EVs have that gas cars don't?
It’s the parts, stupid! EVs use proprietary parts that cost a fortune to replace. We’re talking thousands of dollars for proprietary headlights, whereas an old gas car you can buy new headlights for $30 at an auto parts store.
It didn’t have to be this way. But manufacturers saw an opportunity for maximum greed and they took it!
Hey moron, ICE cars use those, too.
Not used ones! There’s a whole market out there of used cars that are cheap and easy to repair.
Then your complaint is with new cars, not electric ones.
Yet nobody is buying used electric cars. The resale price is abysmal. US adoption of electric cars has stalled as a result.
You wanted an explanation of what’s going on and then when you don’t like the answer you react negatively.
LOL I didn't ask for an explanation of anything.Tthis is not about me not liking your answer, it's about it being factually incorrect.
Here you go. It’s not factually incorrect. EVs are too expensive to repair!
So your evidence that they're too expensive to repair is that...people are selling them?
They’re selling them at deep discounts. The loss in resale values makes people wary of buying new ones. People want cars that hold their value, otherwise they won’t buy.
You're moving the goalposts. You said they were "disposable" and "non-repairable".
If a car costs more to repair than it’s worth, it’s called a write-off. If a category of anything (doesn’t have to be cars) regularly ends up written off, it’s non-repairable and disposable. That doesn’t mean it’s impossible to repair, just that it’s not worth repairing. Anything can be repaired if you’re willing to spend unlimited money on it.
That's not what it means. I tire of these mental gymnastics. You're spewing nonsense. Goodbye.
Good riddance!