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Liberal Double Standards
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only one of these countries is imperialist.
only one of these countries is a waning world hegemon with it's boot on the neck of the planet and 900 military bases worldwide.
the other has been forced into a position of fighting and weakening the hegemon, and therefore warrants critical support. This is why Africa, China and and most of the middle east support Russia in this war: every NATO tank and drone destroyed in Ukraine is one less to menace people elsewhere, one less to enforce murderous sanctions and austerity. The logic is very simple if you understand cause, effect and scale.
You guys sound like liberals defending the invasion of Iraq.
What are Wagner doing in Africa? Guarding mines and shit. What was Azov doing in Eastern Uktaine before Russia stopped them? Slaughtering 8,000 people with the blessing of the nazi coup government.
Spain being imperialist (imperialistic is not a word) doesn't make, for example, Morocco imperialist. You seem to think I'm saying Russia is a lesser imperial power. You are wrong: Russia is not an imperial power at all.
You, emphatically
Oh, the US/NATO military venture designed to sieze control of a country's resources by manufacturing a conflict with a government headed by a guy we put there in the first place?
Yeah, imagine defending something like that. If this was 2002 your gullible ass would be calling me a Saddam Lover. But of course, now that we've already fucked up Iraq, that war can join the list of US crimes that liberals were definitely, totally for realsies always against from the beginning. You people are as craven as you are predictable. Always opposing every war after it's too late and supporting every war when it actually matters.
In 5 years or so when we get 9/11 2: This Time it's Ukranian, you'll say"Everyone knew that starting the Ukraine War was a bad and criminal idea, but this time it's different! This time we need to support (a puppet government in the Philippines doing ethnic cleansing against Chinese people or something) against big, evil, fascist Gyna, who attacked for no reason! Democracy itself is on the line!" Over and over every few years, never learning, until we're all dead.
My gullible ass is old enough to actually have been out in the street protesting against US/NATO and the invasion of Iraq back in 2002. You're defending Putin's war as if it's justifiable by Azov or by Euromaidan. And arresting and making Tymoshenko a political prisoner or breaking the Budapest Memorandum is of course all reasonable, right?
Btw, imperialistic: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/imperialistic
And you still didn't learn your lesson about trusting the US government when they tell you it's time to start some shit with their manufactured villain of the week? That's inexcusable dude, I was 7 and I learned that.
So which is it you believe: that the Donbas Republics had no right to call for help against a nazi coup government that was slaughtering them.by the thousands, that the nazi coup government was somehow tricked into doing ethnic cleansing by devious Putin, or that the ethnic cleansing didn't happen at all? Any of the three is equally disgusting.
I don't know or care about this one rando you're talking about when you're supporting a bunch of Israeli-trained nazis killing eight thousand people for speaking a language they don't like, and endlessly opposing the army that's stopped it. Stop caping for nazis.
This is the puppet government's national hero. When you support them, you support this.
Former democratically elected president of Ukraine is a "rando". Ok, nice chatting with you.
You too, Holocaust supporter.
No base in reality, just baseless insults and imagination. Only there you can justify supporting the actions of a fascist.
You were saying, Holocaust supporter? If you're going to keep running your useless nazi mouth, address the ethnic cleansing of the Donbas.
How's it like being a fascist collaborator? Take care not to accidentally fall out a window and be sure not to even hold up a blank piece of paper.
"Ethnic cleansing of the Donbas" now you're literally parroting Putin. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
I guess mainstream Western press were also parroting Putin, until Feb. 24, 2022. Previously:
Previously:
Whoa, you mean the time wizard Putin somehow filmed this CNN segment from over a decade ago? https://youtu.be/sK_5KthQTHk
Now you're just doing nazi atrocity denial when confronted with evidence, as liberals love to do. I figured it would come to this, because these discussions always seem to, but it's always disgusting to see. Say hi to Bandera for me when you arrive in hell, you Hitlerite freak.
Liberal: is confronted with evidence that contradicts their denial
Liberal: You are a GAY RUSSIAN HOMOSEXUAL and the documented ethnic cleansing is a RUSSIAN LIE, which we know because RUSSIANS are pointing it out and they are ALWAYS LYING, RACIALLY
Every time with you bootlicking imperial freaks, theres nothing you love more than turning your brains off. You definitely called people Saddm lovers back in the day. You almost certainly demanded to know if people condemned Hamas before that became a little too socially unsavory. You fucks love having an enemy, like any fascist.
I don't think you know what imperialism means. Russia can and is bad without being imperialist. They may have imperial ambitions but that's irrelevant to the now where they do not have the capacity to be imperialist. I wish people would stop trying to dilute the meaning of imperialism to just mean country doing war or big country doing thing I don't like.
Imperialism is when a country fights another country and authoritarianism is when any government, especially a non-white one, does anything I don't like.