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I'm a conservative. I don't mind the liberal stuff here. It's good to learn the other side, but I don't want a liberal echo chamber. I'd like to be more politically balanced in the fediverse. Is there any way I can do that?

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[-] euphoria@kbin.social 115 points 1 year ago

funny how every time conservatives group up, their communities become so toxic, full of hate and conspiracies, that people have no choice but to cut ties lol

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's because their political leader at the moment is a populist. They can't help but be a bunch of cunts. Monkey see money do kind of thing.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Here’s an unpopular opinion. I saw a lot of the same elements in the Bernie crowd. Not for taking peoples rights or anything illegal like that mind you, but they were very quick to want to ignore the rules during the primary to throw out the choice of the Democratic majority in order to have Bernie win over Hillary. To this day I still hear conspiracy theory talking points about how Bernie really won, or how he was winning the real polls, etc. it’s the same populist rhetoric and it’s dangerous.

[-] CountZero@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can't just judge people based on their supporters.

[-] phillaholic@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Bernie never said anything to my knowledge, which is why I said the Bernie Crowd. It was limited to a chunk of his fan base that discussed ignoring primary results and awarding delegates to Bernie. Violent or Non-Violent wasn't the point. The rules were set before the primary, and Bernie lost. Any attempt at discussion of anything regarding overturning that result is overturning democracy. That was scary to read. You don't think that would ever turn into a coup attempt, but It's enough to have made me uncomfortable.

I only blame Bernie as much as his populist rhetoric misleads people. Nothing actually happened, and I don't believe he would have stood for it if it did.

[-] CountZero@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, but how often did Bernie himself repeat those conspiracy theories? Did he ever try to violently overturn the Democratic primary results? Every popular person has some shitty supporters, so you can't just judge people based on their supporters.

[-] src@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you seen all the comments on this thread?

Instead of answering the OPs question, 100+ people are just bashing him for thinking differently, saying stuff like "Well, why are you conservative in the first place? Conservatism is so stupid! People on the right are evil, monsters, etc."

This left wing echo chamber is already very hateful and against any differing opinions.

[-] retrieval4558@mander.xyz 16 points 1 year ago

It's not "thinking differently" it's "the beliefs necessary to maintain that political stance are stupid and cruel".

[-] Snowman44@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Not every conservative is a racist nazi. Some of us just want the government to stick to doing what's in the constitution.

[-] Falmarri@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

So then how can you possibly agree with the right? Is banning books in the Constitution?

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Westerners, especially Americans, have a really really hard time believing that you can be socially one thing and governmentally/economically another. For instance Im radically socially leftist but economically libertarian.

Because Americans have been force fed the lie that you have to pick one size fits all, they assume that every conservative is also socially conservative. Which, in the case of America, means you support the wild anti lgbt/anti abortion legislation.

[-] duckington@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

I agree. The way I worded my comment was very intentional to not bash conservatism. I don’t consider myself one but I thought OP’s question was pretty respectful and I do find it unfortunate that he doesn’t have a community on here that isn’t extremely radicalized.

[-] src@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, it's a shame that people can't be more civil and respectful to each other.

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