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What the fuck is this? What sort of genocidal maniac are you?
This isn't anarchism, this isn't a stance informed by theory, this is toxic misanthropy.
How is "kill a third of everyone" getting any upvotes? This is disgusting, you are disgusting. Read some books you derranged maniac.
Yup. Once again, malarchy masquerading as anarchy. Cui Bono.
Well as long as it's bounded mass slaughter that's ok then.
So, are you volunteering to be "culled"?
I have never heard an anarchist speak this way. I don't want to be left alone, I simply don't want a class of people who believe they hold authority over me as my superiors. Anarchists shouldn't be using anyone. A stable anarchy can't exist as long as people are still thinking in terms of using each other as resources for their own interests.
Murdering each other is against our nature but we've been doing it prolifically since the advent of agriculture so much so that war is seen as a "natural" part of life. The solution of killing all the bad guys so only good guys are left has probably been on the mind of most of those soldiers and military leader for the last 10,000 years. It turns out this approach doesn't end authoritarianism or violence.
If somehow we killed 37% of the human population in no way would that bring us closer to a fair and equitable world. It would be exactly in line with dominator culture hegemony which has existed for the most recent few thousand years. What you described would not be revolutionary, but typical for the present buccaneer philosophy which is popular among the powerful and their thralls.
Nope. Genocide has always been with us. Where do you think all the other types of humans went?
FTFY. No point in pining for a social order fundamentally incompatible with human nature.
What would the mechanism be to exterminate 37% of the human race with this degree of precision? Who would be in charge of it and why do we trust them not to continue using such a tool? If it's not a military operation, what would it be?
A major, fundamental issue with your suggestion is that it assumes there are multiple species of humans which exist who are fundamentally different on a genetic level. If I was a god who could snap my fingers and instantly obliterate all conservatives, it would not be the end of conservatism. You yourself are locked in violent thinking, are you absolutely certain that your own children couldn't possibly be attracted to violence when you yourself believe that mass violence on an unprecedented scale is the best opportunity to create a just world? Are you certain that no child born of any survivors would carry any temptation to take advantage of others as those in the past have? Are you sure no one in the surviving billions of people, generationally removed from your mass killing, would have the ability to re-invent a dipshit philosophy like fascism? I don't think its bad genes which causes the myriad evils which result from trauma and poverty. As long as there is an incentive for people to behave in anti-social ways, people will behave in anti-social ways.
You are correct that unreasonable people can't be reasoned with. Dogs also can't be reasoned with but are not a threat to society. This is because we manage them. Trump has demonstrated that you can be a fool-whisperer like Cesar Milan is a dog-whisperer. The problem is that he uses his ability to influence fools for evil instead of good. These unreasonable fear-motivated dupes can be dealt with in ways that take advantage of their cowardice to neutralize themselves as a threat or depend on pro-social groups rather than use their cowardice to fuel despotism. The human race of which you and I are part will contain a vast array of people acting and being acted upon. We as a species can be influenced, but eugenic movements to root out undesirables have never worked.
We're not talking about the use of violence generally, which is a nuanced and vastly complex topic. We are talking about literally wiping out 37% of humanity, which is much less nuanced or complex. Such ideas should have been left behind during the previous century.
Dude, what? Are you sure you're in the right instance? Purges? Fuck outta here
Lol, lmao even. I'm about 90% procent sure you're from the USA just from this comment alone, opinon disregarded.
What is the point of posting a comment to say you're disregarding an opinion.
Do you always loudly announce everyone you do something no one gives a shit about?
I think this article explains it pretty well
Darling, it's obvious why. I'm bored and you seemed like someone who's entertaining when annoyed.
Then what prevents those with resources to take control of you and own you like slaves? Who will protect you against that?
Well you and your neighbors and friends, and the greater community that has the same ideal. If you want to be left alone you have to fight in solidarity for it as long as there are those who act to disturb your peace. It's a desire, a hope, not a adherence to passivism.
Yeah not sure where you get your numbers from or the basis for that. I can't imagine someone would be more of an asshole outside of capitalism. Maybe you have some shit neighbors or maybe not and you just need to talk to them.
I don't know anarchism in depth but reading through the comments here, this is what strikes me as an obvious vulnerability of the ideology. That and the seeming lack of a mechanism against returnung to capitalist production.
The examples of societies in this thread are inefficient in terms of production. While that's probably a good thing for quality of life, it tells me they likely wouldn't be able to produce enough defence goods to stop a capitalist from taking over and throwing them into factories for 12 hours per day. Capitalism being great at producing weapons efficiently.
Insurgency is an extremely effective strategy against capitalist imperialism. It's had a near perfect record for 70yrs now. Not to comment on the majority of ideologies that have utilized it...
Well, AnCaps are in a mechanism to return to capitalist production (and the consolidation of wealth towards corporatism, monopoly, and fascism).
So the anarchists to the left of that are doing better, even if it's true that they have no mechanism against returning to capitalist production.
The philosophy, may be sufficient, without mechanism or overly structuralist strategies. And the more everybody's empowered, the easier and more sure that may be.
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Not my anarchism.
Not even anarchism.
Malarchy.
Mal,
Archy.
Anarchy doesn't mean passivist.
If someone wants to enslave me or anyone else without consent. Dead.
It's not a discussion. It's not like there is some gray area here. It's a violation of everyone else's freedom to consent.
Either we are all free or no one is free.
Taking someone freedoms is an assault on every other human and must be treated a such.
There are many other ways besides becoming them.
Sure, reasonable force.
But to jump from zero to over 9000...
Always a better way.
Explore the gray area you assert is not there.
It's not a binary, of either consent or murder.
False dichotomy fallacy.
Self contradiction.
Are those you kill, free?
Or did you use your authority and violence to take away their freedom?
Maybe try educate them, plant some seeds, offer counter arguments, obsolete their foolish diminishment of potential, show them how they're depriving themselves from their attempt to enslave others.
Agreed.
I hope I've helped show you this.
Nicer to be free from murderous authorities imposing their way.
Sure, there are worse things than death, but that does not make that lesser evil good.
As emotive an impulse, and instinct, it is, to end the enslaver, there are more ways to end the enslaavement, than just killing the enslaver. Ways that don't involve becoming a murderous tyrant.
Better the anarchy of
than the malarchy of
"Do not appear as a slaver in my perception or I kill you."
... ironic, how that can be seen in same light as the enslaver, and make you a target for those of the same philosophy.
An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth making the whole world blind and toothless again.
You don't need to "purge" 37% of the population under anarchy. If one trade union or labor syndicate goes fash, the others will just stop providing resources to them until they either realize being fascist isn't sustainable or become powerless after being cut off. There's a much more ethical way of dealing with authoritarians already accounted for in the theory, no violence required.