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[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 50 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

More to that story.. Turns out charges were dropped within days.

https://www.clickorlando.com/news/2017/12/19/charge-dropped-against-94-year-old-woman-arrested-for-not-paying-rent/

Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn't need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible..

Hmmm.

Always look up the stories behind the memes. They might not really be about what you think they are.

[-] shishka_b0b@lemmy.zip 51 points 4 days ago

There's a bunch of articles with conflicting details. It does look like the facility tried a few different avenues before evicting her, but I haven’t seen a report mentioning involvement from a healthcare professional trained to handle situations like this. Every article does make it sound like that’s exactly what she needed though. It’s also entirely possible that when she said she thought she was going to die soon, she was referring to the potential mold issue she had been complaining about. I don’t think the article you linked mentions anything about that. I could be wrong though since I read a few.

There’s also this quote from another article:

Ms Fitzgerald, who was interviewed in jail while dressed in an orange jumpsuit, tearfully refuted the claims. Asked about why she would not pay the rent, the woman, who was handcuffed and appeared to have bruises up her arms, said of a housing facility employee: “She wouldn't take it, that woman blamed me for the mould.” She added: “I paid my September rent and when she decided she was going to put me out, she wouldn't accept any rent after that.”

The truth is probably somewhere between the two accounts. But honestly, that’s beside the point. Even if the living facility's version was completely accurate, a 93 year old woman should not have ended up bruised and dragged out of her home by police just because she withheld rent for two months and refused to follow an order to vacate. Full stop.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Oh, I don't disagree with you on that. She did apparently find permanent housing and I looked all over the place for later news on her like an obit or anything, actually.. so I can only assume she's still kicking somewhere and is now 100.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago

Like a 94 old person isn't quite there any more and doesn't know how to deal with labyrinthine bureaucratic processes?

[-] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn’t need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible…

And the full thing with context is this:

Karen Twinem, with National Church Residences, which owns the Franklin House where Fitzgerald has lived since April 2011, said Fitzgerald told the staff she held back rent for the past three months because she thought she was going to die soon. Fitzgerald denied that claim, telling News 6 that she tried to pay October rent but was denied.

So your provided context is misleading and it shows that most people trusted you and didn't read the article for themselves.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is the part I twigged on: "Fitzgerald denied that claim, telling News 6 that she tried to pay October rent but was denied.." the entire thing is fishy. I was witness to an almost identical event involving a relative who was nearly as old and was a passive-aggressive manipulator right up until the end. Not saying that the woman in the article was manipulative, as none of us really knows, other than the nursing home and because of HIPAA rules they can not say the real situation.

Generally, nursing homes will keep residents for as long as they can. If she was saying afterwards that she did not need donations, it speaks to the fact that she might not have been poor. This could have been, like in my own relative's situation, that the nursing home staff was at their wit's end with the resident. That she's saying she had money and they STILL wanted her out.. That's a HUGE red flag that the resident is problematic.

My own relative was caught lying repeatedly to the point where the home had to double up staff when they interacted with her because she would claim her property was being stolen or things didn't show in the mail that she claimed had arrived..(Had to call the person who was sending the item and in fact, it was still on his kitchen table waiting to be mailed..)

The final line she crossed was that she had a Medtronic pump for her pain meds and she refused to give up the bolus that she'd dose herself with. They had their own scheduling for medications and of course with that, timing is everything so there was no control.. She was put into a police car against her will and sent to her home. Was so aggro with the cops they threatened to book her for disruptive behavior. Bounced right back into a different facility that had a bit more robust drug control policy and within a few short months got busted for smoking in her room.. with a roommate in the bed next to her that was on oxygen.

That was a fiasco of spectacular proportions. The temper tantrum she had after they turfed her room and took all the cigarette lighters and matches was thermonuclear and involved no less than half a dozen policemen trying to get her sorted.

When you deal with seniors that are really old, you CAN sometimes be dealing with someone that isn't going to play nice.

[-] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Sounds like you had a pretty shitty relative. I'm still going to withhold blaming the woman while both sides have contradictory accounts so different someone is obviously lying. I don't doubt there is a chance this woman is like you say, but we don't have enough information to infer, so I prefer to wait before casting blame until we know the truth of the situation.

Which we likely will never get, but hey if it ever goes to court, maybe we'll get to find out someday.

[-] foodandart@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

The thing that leads me to think she might have been/is a toxic person, is that I could not find a single follow up to her story.

No family came out of the woodwork to explain her situation and defend it.. no social care workers saying they found her accommodation elsewhere.. just nothing.

Which.. is unusual for a story like this.

Not even an obituary for someone with her name that would be of the right age.

Hmmm. Red flags all over this one. Will likely never know for sure.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

You added absolutely nothing of relevance to the story.

[-] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

People who aren’t around 90 year olds expect they are as keen as the 90 year olds on TV.

At 90 there is always some dementia. He is treating this like it is some thought out plan instead of confusion.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

She said "Bible" so she's religious, ergo bad.

Throw her to the wolves!

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 days ago

They must be catering to that huge "atheist but not socialist" demographic on Lemmy.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Secular libertarians somehow manage to be worse than religious ones

[-] prole 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Notice the part where she said she stopped paying rent because she thought she was going to die, and later when she was offered money, said she didn’t need it and would likely give away the donations and just wanted her bible…

Damn you know what, in that case she totally deserved it.

Like who fucking cares? Why do you even think that's something important to mention?

[-] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

The guy you responded too was misleading, the full quote in his own article paints a completely different story.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

It means the disaster was self imposed, not forced by the system.

[-] pleasejustdie@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Read the article, the guy you replied to cut context, the care facility said she told them that, but she claims she tried to pay rent but couldn't and that she never said that.

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