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[-] davel@lemmy.ml 17 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Russia isn’t imperialist, it has no colonies nor neocolonies

Yeah, tell that to Crimea, the Donbas

Are you kidding me? The people in Crimea and the Donbas wanted to join Russia, to protect them from Ukraine, which had been killing them since 2014.

China is a kinder imperialist, but they are using largely the same playbook that the west used in Africa, including debt-trap diplomacy, undermining local sovereignty and regulation, and undermining labor movements.

The Atlantic, 2021: The Chinese ‘Debt Trap’ Is a Myth

What is China doing to undermine local sovereignty or labor movements in Africa?

The current real estate crisis

What “current” real estate crisis? The Chinese state intentionally popped the real estate bubble over a year ago, making the capitalists eat their losses.

Compare that to Obama, who bailed out the private banks at the expense of people with home mortgages, banks that knowingly wrote those bad mortgages. Michael Hudson, 2023: Why the Bank Crisis isn’t Over

The financial sector is the core of Democratic Party support, and the party leadership is loyal to its supporters. As President Obama told the bankers who worried that he might follow through on his campaign promises to write down mortgage debts to realistic market valuations in order to enable exploited junk-mortgage clients to remain in their homes, “I’m the only one between you [the bankers visiting the White House] and the mob with the pitchforks,” that is, his characterization of voters who believed his “hope and change” patter talk.

“ghost cities” are a pretty obvious example.

Reuters, 2015: The myth of China’s ghost cities

Wherever you’re getting your information from, it’s dogshit.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

I see you have your cut and paste propaganda all ready to go there.

The people in Crimea and the Donbas wanted to join Russia, to protect them from Ukraine,

Sounds an awful lot like claiming Iraqis wanted the US to overthrow Sadam and would welcome it with open arms. It worked out about the same too, except for the Russian military embarrassing themselves. Even taken at face value, all you are doing is justifying the imperialism, not showing it doesn't exist.

China is the biggest debt holder nation in the world. Zambia just had to default on loans for infrastructure that largely served Chinese needs, and Kenya and Ethiopia are not far behind. Meanwhile, the DRC is falling into debt paying for infrastructure to ship Copper and Cobalt to Chinese. China has not been as abusive as the west was, but they aren't that much better either. It's still the same tactics.

New Labor Forum: Chinese Investments in Africa: Twenty-First Century Colonialism?

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 hours ago

"Cut and paste propaganda" lol you mean sources? You're just upset that they came prepared because you've got jack shit

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I see you have your cut and paste propaganda all ready to go there.

Oh yeah, famous Chinese propaganda outlet: The Atlantic.

Fuck off; you're just using the word "propaganda" to mean "anything I disagree with. There is nothing that anyone could say to you to disagree that you wouldn't immediately say "that's propaganda and therefore wrong!" to.

It worked out about the same too

Are you stupid? Iraq immediately erupted into long term insurgency, a thing that categorically did not happen in Crimea or Donbas.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 12 hours ago

There is still a significant pro Ukrainian resistance operating in both Crimea and Donbas. Russian has had to resort to brutal tactics to suppress them, but has still not been entirely successful. Many of the resisters retreated to fight with the rest of Ukraine, and they are certainly giving Russia a fight. In any case, it's still imperialism.

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 hours ago

Yeah? Where did you hear this?

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

If you don't like cut and paste responses, stop having cut and paste thoughts.

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