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[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Point me to one single socialist revolution that wasn't immediately attacked by capital. Just one. You can't.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Not even going to reply to your strawman. I said that it's weak mentality to say "ends justify the means and sacrifice justice and freedom for the sake of fighting a foreign oppressor" - maybe that's easier to understand? Weak people, weak minds, skill issue.

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lol you said nothing of the sort and now you're running away shouting random reddit bullshit for cover (what strawman? That doesnt even make sense) because you're acutely aware but too proud to admit that your dumb Marvel-brained bullshit has no basis in reality. Who's freedom? Who's justice? You haven't put five seconds of thought into this and you're talking to people who have considered it for years or decades. You're adorable.

[-] drmoose@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

It's absolutely possible to remain just and free while being secure. Skill issue.

Maybe read it again?

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Name one single socialist revolution that hasn't been immediately attacked by capital. You can't.

[-] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Name one single socialist revolution that didn't start as a violent dictatorship. You can't.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The USSR, PRC, Vietnam, Laos, DPRK, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, etc. all were massive expansions on democracy and working class control. Capitalists, landlords, fascists, monarchists, etc were (usually) violently oppressed, while the working classes were uplifted and society was democratized. From the point of view of the capitalists, they found themselves living in a violent dictatorship, for the working classes they found themselves finally escaping violent dictatorship.

[-] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago
[-] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

What do you mean patriot?

[-] anarchaos@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 days ago

exarcheia, and the Paris commune

[-] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Those being anarchists, not socialists. There have been shitloads of anarchist communes working perfectly, until some external force fucks them up or reclaims the land or whatever.

I asked specifically for socialist ones.

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

And you were given a dozen that you ignored

[-] h3rmit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

Not really, I'm reading more about them, aside from the USSR and Cuba I'm not that familiar aside from some general knowledge in them. Neither Cuba nor the USSR I would consider free. Just is debatable, but I can see the point. But I should probably read more about the rest of the examples

[-] RiverRock@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago
[-] anarchaos@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

anarchism is socialist. it's often called libertarian socialist.

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