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[-] nimble 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The "new light" seems to be the body cam footage that really just confirms things that were already claimed by the defense. Namely that he was questioned for 20 minutes before being read his Miranda rights. The body cam footage also shows the backpack being searched which wasn't explored in the hearing but the article notes it will likely come up later on since the defense claims there was no warrant to search the backpack. These things are old news, but the body cam footage is new afaict

[-] Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip 21 points 3 days ago

Also, wasn't one of the issues that they searched the backpack on site, no gun.

Then suddenly, miraculously found a gun in it once they got it to the station?

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 2 points 3 days ago

Let's be real though. He did it, we know he did it, and Lemmy is just hoping that he can get off on some technicality. I hope he's convicted because, ya shouldn't be able to just shoot someone you don't like. Yes, he shot a scumbag. But that's a slippery slope because I think lots of people are scumbags, but I don't shoot them.

I wanna see Luigi convicted and sentenced to life in prison. But I also want to see insurance execs like the one he shot, convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

[-] TheAlbatross 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Fuck it, I'll play.

The police officers failed to inform him of his rights before a custodial interrogation, so use of the information gathered in those 20 minutes in court would violate his rights as an American citizen who is owed a fair trial that follows due process.

In addition to that, the police officers violated his constitutional rights by searching his possessions without a warrant.

By convicting him, we allow police officers to act as authoritarian jackboots, with no regard for law or due process. We give up the very rights we fought for in the violent birth of our nation. Some could argue that Luigi was fighting against a similar type of tyranny that our Founding Fathers were in their revolution against British oppression.

Perhaps he did shoot that CEO in broad daylight. Maybe he didn't. It doesn't matter, as convicting him would be surrendering our liberties and that should enrage any patriot.

[-] nimble 16 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have said previously i don't know if he did it or not. I'm still waiting for the evidence to be presented in court. The media and by extension much of the public have already decided he's guilty which limits his ability to have a fair trial which only complicates things further.

Now do i think people should go around killing people they don't like or don't agree with? No.

But what is equally troubling to me are your words that you want to see him convicted and sentenced to life. Do you want that even if his constitutional rights have been violated? Is it OK to ignore some constitutional rights under certain circumstances?

The thing about constitutional rights is that we shouldn't choose when they are upheld and when it's ok to ignore them. This is a large issue in the US right now in more than just the right to a fair trial, and even extends to human rights violations.

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

Now do i think people should go around killing people they don’t like or don’t agree with? No.

That's def not the majority opinion on Lemmy! lol

But what is equally troubling to me are your words that you want to see him convicted and sentenced to life.

I do. Because I think he did it. I'm not on the jury, so I'm allowed to have my opinion before I see every fact.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Innocent until proven guitly. Without that, we can not claim to be a free country.

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

Agreed, but I'm not a juror, so I can express my opinion. But what's your excuse gonna be if he confesses?

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

A confession of guilt is still innocent until proven guilty. Im not sure what point you are trying to make.

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 1 points 11 hours ago

You know what point I am making. And ya know he did it, you just want him to get away with it. So just admit that. Don't dance around and pretend that you have other reasoning.

Either way, I guess we are gonna find out what a jury thinks.

[-] bagsy@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I dont know the guy, and i dont know if hes guilty or not. i could not care less if he is guilty or not.

What I care about is the rule of law. The rules exist to protect citizens from both criminals and the police. The rules must be followed.

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Even aside from human rights, those eyebrows look very different in every security camera picture and on Luigi

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

But what's your excuse gonna be if he confesses?

[-] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Excuse for what? If he confesses, he should explain what he did to his eyebrows.

[-] PapaSkwat@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'll be honest. I think Luigi's a spoiled rich kid prick that wanted to make a statement and doesn't know how the world works and got pissed that something didn't go his way. And he grew up in the very wealth that Lemmy likes to pretend to fight against (even tho the average Lemmy user makes way more than the average US citizen).

I can forgive him for that and the murder.

But I can't forgive those eyebrows or all the multiple Lemmys saying variations of "Oh he's good looking! I'm a straight guy, but he's giving me feels...." No. Just no. Those fucking eyebrows need to be apologized for.

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

He was an alleged armed murderer and they detained him as the suspect. Where I live the bag being searched would probably be allowed under reasonable suspicion.

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