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[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 56 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

She is a fascist herself who led the unilateral intervention on Libya that lead to the unnecessary deaths of 50k people in a civil war that didn't need to happen, architected the pivot to Asia which will lead to WW3, and "promoted" LGBT rights internationally in a way that got LGBT people thrown under the bus world wide as a side effect of resisting American imperial power.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago

I've said it all through out her run in 2016.

Shes not a democrat.

Shes not a liberal.

Shes just a Republican in a blue coat.

[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 3 points 6 days ago

But it was her turn! Damnit, she was going to run regardless of how unpopular she was.

It's like the end of Happy Gilmore when Shooter McGavin grabs the jacket because it was his turn, he felt it was owed to him.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Probably wouldnt have trump today if it wasnt for the DNC sabotaging all the popular candidates to shove hilary down our throats.

No one wanted hilary.

and remember, Trump didnt even want to win. He just wanted to use running as a springboard for more attention. He was, by all accounts, upset with his intitial win because of how he felt he'd be restricted by the white house.. granted all thats long since been gone since he learned how to manipulate the office to his favor (especially with charging the SS 4x more than anyone else for his weekly trips to maralago..) in his first time, and how hes fucking destroyed the country with his second with how he has undermined everything to go full narcoleptic cartman.

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

I think there were people who wanted Hillary, in the sense that they were perfectly fine with settling for her. But, there weren't many people who were passionate supporters, and there were a lot of people who hated her. And, the way her campaign was run reflected that. It was basically "Hillary: what are you gonna do, vote for the other guy?"

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

And thats exactly what they did.. because she cared more about catering to billionaires, holding secret meetings behind massive white noise generating speakers so no one could hear what was being said, than she cared about campaigning.. Which is why she lost every state she couldnt even be bothered to make a single appearance in.

People want to blame trump for everything, but Hilary being a shit, arrogant candidate that walked around like gods gift to freedom was absolutely a big part in trump winning.

Because she couldnt even pretend to give a fuck.

[-] Postimo@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 week ago

This distinction gives too much credit to democrats and liberals.

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

“promoted” LGBT rights internationally in a way that got LGBT people thrown under the bus world wide as a side effect of resisting American imperial power.

Hey I don't like HRC but this take is pants on head unhinged. Shes not doing anti-LGBT 4D chess, she was just narcissistic/delusional to think she'd be anywhere charismatic enough to convince people internationally to treat LGBT people better.

Do people in the global south & developing world have agency? Or are they simpletons being manipulated by grand puppet masters? If the answer is they have agency, the bigots that live in those places should own their bigotry and you shouldn't do apologia for them. If the answer is they are simpletons well... ok.

[-] hamid@crazypeople.online 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You lack understanding of what I said then went way off the rails with your ridiculous finger wagging. We said the exact same fucking thing. I didn't say she did it on purpose, I'm saying the way she did it got them thrown under the bus.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

I'll say she did it on purpose. There is no such thing as an unintended negative consequence of democrats' actions. Not one. If they wanted to get the benefit of the doubt, they shouldn't have supported genocide. They'll need a lot of action to fix that. Not words. Democrats have demonstrated how worthless their words are.

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