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[-] Semester3383@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You simply don't get it.

When you don't have the right to vote, your actions that make the majority 'suffer' can be criminalized, and the people that can vote then have much, much more power to make YOU suffer than you do to hurt them. Look at Iran, or Afghanistan. Do you really think that women in those countries have the ability to affect any change in society at all without convincing the men, and the religious leaders first?

I assume you've read The Handmaid's Tale?

Women at the turn of the century simply did not have enough ability to effectively wield violence to overcome that kind of power. That's why you need to convince people that DO have power.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

You don't convince those who dont consider you human hy begging.

Voting only matters if they already care what you, at least as a class/population, think. Voting is not power, no more than a text message or a crayon is. If you don't have something behind it, the currently powrful have no reason to give a single solitary fuck what you want.

Womens liberation did not come from the right to vote. You have it precisely backwards, and there is a left feminist anti-suffrage argument i wont hurt your lib headgristle with.

I say this as someone from part of a group it's very hard to keep from voting and expects men with guns to drag me out of bed and take me to the camps any month now: fuck you, you're why I'm going to die. Fuck you. I'm sure you're privileged enough to survive this, nobody as ferventlu pig ignorant as you could be otherwise, but it will almost be worth it if they get you too. I hope my emaciated corpsey ass is still around to see your shitlib "nobody could have known" panic when they dump you at whatever novelty shit hell concentration camp they build next.

Sincerely: fuck you. Your willful boot picking ignorance has put the round thats gonna kill me in the air. I'm just waiting for it to hit. Mostly alone, because you scum are still obsessed with your juromantic rituals, and im kind of expecting to be snitched out for existing.

[-] Semester3383@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You don’t convince those who dont consider you human hy begging.

Correct. You start by convincing them that you're human. That's a large part of the reason that there was a very rapid sea-change in gay rights.

I say this as someone from part of a group it’s very hard to keep from voting and expects men with guns to drag me out of bed and take me to the camps any month now: [...]

As a 2A enthusiast, THIS IS WHY I'VE BEEN TELLING LGBTQ+, WOMEN, NON-WHITE PEOPLE, AND RELIGIOUS MINORITIES TO GET FUCKING ARMED FOR THE LAST DECADE. Unless and until you can build a coalition that agrees that you are human, and have rights, you need to be able to use violence as a tool to protect yourself, and your community. This is why I'm a firearms instructor, this is I offer free training to and LGBTQ+, non-white, non-christian, or non-male person that wants it.

[-] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

You convince them by making them afraid. Fear and violence is the only dialogue with one who is steadfastly determined not to understand you or regard you as himan.

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