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submitted 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) by TwinkleToes@lemmy.ca to c/ukraine@sopuli.xyz

Russia only negotiates when it feels it can longer get what it wants by force. It then switches to maximalist, zero-compromise give-me-something style demands to the point of absurdity.

But what should Ukraine do? The Russians and their U.S. proxies are pushing for concessions, with zero hard security guarantees. The 'realities on the ground', as they're very fond of saying, aren't such that Ukraine should be happy to only lose 20% of it's territory, including all the human, resource and industrial potential that that includes. U.S. material support is barely relevant to Ukraine's ability to resist the 2025 version of the Russian Terrorist Army strategically.

Indeed, what should they do? U.S. leverage is less than Trump would have you believe. Russian capabilities are not getting markedly better by any measure. Their small, slow advances are not adding up to strategic defeat for Ukraine. Ukraine has many more 'cards to play' before they, and Europe, should accept that this is the best time to...well....surrender, and let the russian re-tool for an obvious Next Glorious Invasion in a couple years.

Maybe the wisest plan is to keep fighting. Keep bleeding the Russians until they howl, and their terms get better. They aren't reasonable actors - they're trying to eradicate Ukraine completely. Politicallly, militarily, culturally. And that's not old news - Putin said this last week. Fight until the last Ukrainian is dead. How can you even consider negotiating with such clearly genocidal hatred.

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[-] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago

You don’t. The only way to negotiate is to force them out.

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