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[-] bulwark@lemmy.world 232 points 18 hours ago

"So it's sort of like when we fed cows with cows and got mad cow disease." is an amazing analogy for the current state of LLMs.

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 54 points 16 hours ago

Yeah, the headline makes it sound like he's insulting AI, but he's just illustrating a fairly basic fact...

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 3 points 17 hours ago

It isn't -- it is a completely populist comparison that can't be used as a meaningful argument.

CEOs work by this very same principle: say what people want to hear, making their beliefs even stronger and thus increasing their craving to hear that statement again. Repeat until something breaks.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.zip 70 points 16 hours ago

You know analogy and argument are not the same thing, right? Like, not at all. I'm not the guy you replied to, but I definitely did not get the impression he meant anything even close to "meaningful argument".

And you know what? I think he's right; that is a very apt analogy when taking about sophisticated bullshit generators. Cause that's the version they keep trying to sell to the public. This isn't about data analysis or any other if the creative scientific applications of this technology.

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 4 points 16 hours ago

This isn’t about data analysis or any other if the creative scientific applications of this technology.

But this is the only thing that matters. Who cares how people who don't know, care or capable of using some technology are actually using it? Ammonium nitrate is poisonous if you try to salt a soup with it, but it makes miracles in the hands of those who know how to use it (if you like analogies)

Cause that’s the version they keep trying to sell to the public.

I am not a lawyer, but I think that even in the USA it isn't mandatory to buy everything that corporations sell.

Modern LLMs are very useful tools. Just some people try to smalltalk with it for some reason. Their right. Salting soup with nitrates is also their right.

[-] Truscape 29 points 16 hours ago

Oh goddammit, you're here. Move on to Lembot_0006 already, ya contrarian doofus.

[-] SCmSTR 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Is that a user that is "unblockable" by dodging username blocks by iterating the name?

[-] Truscape 25 points 14 hours ago

Yep, someone already joked that they picked 4 digits for their username so they have a failsafe for getting banned 9,998 times. That was at 0004.

If you look at their chat history it really explains it all tbh. I wonder if we could get this instance to defederate their account haven.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago

Ugh yet another Lemmy user desperate to make the LLMs like them. Go chat with your chatbot friends and leave humans alone mate.

[-] figjam@midwest.social 8 points 11 hours ago

Thanks Lembot.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 14 points 16 hours ago

the analogy perfectly describes model collapse.

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