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KDE Going all-in on a Wayland future
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"KDE: We hate Unix."
KDE:
“The Unix philosophy favors composability as opposed to monolithic design”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
Xorg is a monolith with essentially one implementation. Wayland is a modular system with almost every component available from multiple sources.
Saying adopting Wayland means you “hate UNIX” is one of the least thoughtful arguments I can imagine.
Linux is not UNIX. And X isn't part of POSIX.
Also, Wayland works on FreeBSD.
Please refrain from replying to things I haven’t said. None of your points invalidate mine.
So, you just decided to say "KDE: we hate Unix" for no reason whatsoever, because it has no relation to the OP at all?
It does have a relation. KDE worked just well on most Unices for decades. "Going all-in" on Wayland means that they'll drop support for all operating systems except Linuces and FreeBSD. There are two explanations for that:
I'm not quite sure where you're misunderstanding me here. Care to elaborate?
I guess their mention that X isn’t part of POSIX very much applies, despite you being dismissive of it. This is an absurd take. Wayland can obviously be ported to whatever is still developed. It’s just software.
If X11 is so good why is there no X12?
X11 is already perfect as it is. Everything left was fixed in the X11Rx releases.
One of the great aspects of Open Source is that you can continue to use any software you like for as long as you want. Enjoy Xorg (or your other favourite X11 server).
Of course, a majority of Xorg devs disagreed with you which is why they started Wayland to begin with. And a majority of desktop Linux users disagree with you now as three quarters of them have switched to Wayland.
Wayland offers a lot that X11 does not at this point. So, nobody is coming back. But if you are happy with X, stick with it.
You are going to lose access to a lot of apps though. There are very few Wayland only apps now but there are going to be many more in the coming years. And when toolkits like GTK5 go Wayland only, you may lose a some you already use.
There is no Wayland on some of the systems I use.
Cool. Me too. And?