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I think nobody wants AI in Firefox, Mozilla
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So much whining... Please get to know the things you attack, before you embarrass yourself.
Do you know what a "build in AI" is? It's just some algorithms that makes your day easier. And no one steals your data... sigh
It's a local collection of algorithms, and you are quite safe. You probably already use it in so many ways you can't count them - it's just not called "AI" which I guess is the trigger word for you...
So much wtf. Please name one way I use AI without knowing it, and ways that enrage me don't count.
Using a search engine would be one.
Nope. The "AI summary" is something I disable on Google and I try to actively avoid it because it enrages me. It's total dogshit.
The algorithms to determine which pages are most relevant to your query are traditionally seen as AI too. They're just not labelled as such (which was the point), and predate the current AI hype.
I hadn't even thought about the "AI modes" that search engines are incorporating nowadays though, so I get the confusion.
That’s a fair point. But search algorithms fall under the “recommender system” umbrella, which are a very different family from the agentic AI we’re discussing here.
Both are AIs, but with very different use cases. In the same way, you could technically classify both your gaming PC and phone as computers, and you’d be correct.
Edit: links
It was my impression that the thread started wasn't just talking about agentic AI. And I think a lot of the "anti AI folks" here are also angry about recent non-agentic AI additions that Mozilla added, such as e.g. tab recommendations for tab groups.
The post is about the new AI Window feature, and here’s its description from Mozilla’s own announcement:
So, definitely agentic.
I’ll speak honestly: I’m not happy with that either. But that’s incidental to this topic. The agentic component is my biggest concern.
Hmm could be different commenting styles; I, and I think the thread started as well, regularly broaden a topic in response to an article. So my interpretation when they spoke about people having "AI as a trigger word" was that they were referring to people with concerns about more than just agentic AI. But if you want to limit it to that, feel free to ignore my original reference to search engines.
I exclusively use https://noai.duckduckgo.com/
So no.
See my reply to the sibling comment - I wasn't referring to the "AI summary".
Well, then give me a report of everything you use IT for... You phone, apps, tablets, computers, smart tv's and so forth?
Um, nah.. ? I actively avoid half those things and yet use computers constantly. The burden would be on you. So perhaps you can actually give examples that would be true of a lot of people. I feel like you think lemmy users are like most people and just along with what's popular, but that's not the case, particularly with computing concerns.
Damn you are not really well, are you? You want me to tell you exactly where you use build in "AI" that helps you make decisions, but you won't tell me what you use?!? I don't have to prove anything. My claim stands. I can see that you are using some kind of computer, and the internet. You are using algorithms that act the way AI does... But I guess you are too blind to see... That's on you. Keep living in your little illusion of a world. 🙃
Says the person who wants a full inventory of my computing hardware. What a fucking bizarre human.
Well, you wanted me to tell you what AI-like algorithms you were using - and you expect me to do that from no information? You really are not well...
I’m a senior full-stack engineer at a recruitment startup. I’m the one responsible for the AI side of things. We do document analysis of résumés and all kinds of identification documents and photos. We also run various assistant chatbots that interact with users and accept file uploads, do job interviews and much more. I think I know enough not to embarrass myself.
No. A “built-in AI” is not a collection of “magic algorithms” that suddenly make life better. Working with AI is some of the worst hours I’ve ever spent of my life. Writing increasingly convoluted prompts to make it follow explicitly stated instructions for the N-th time in order not to misuse tools or output the correct structured data is not magic. It’s an exercise in futility most of the time.
So… You’re introducing an autonomous agent between you and the web you’re browsing. With the sole purpose of making decisions and taking actions on your behalf. And this thing is already proven to have the capability to HALLUCINATE.
Aside from all the privacy concerns and assuming that the models actually run locally; all code can have bugs, and worse: this “magic tool” is an amorphous collection of floating point numbers and you can’t debug a neural net’s weights.
If this thing has permission to freely interact with web pages, then sorry, your data will never be safe.
I think you’re the one confusing the terminology.
Oh, you work for Mozilla Firefox, do you?
Being childish and trying to turn what I say into "magic algorithms"
GZ with your made up title, which must be made up, given the crazy ramblings you are making.
The "AI" that Firefox is implementing is not "autonomous" - do look up the definitions, please! It is not sentient, it can't hallucinate, since it is not sentient. What the big tech are making (their LLM) can't hallucinate either - they just do something that looks like it, and we put silly terms on it, like hallucinating. You are NOT getting a neural network on your own computer when you install Firefox - now you are just being daft!
You are confused, paranoid and really prove, that you should get to know what you are talking about. sigh
Are you purposefully trolling or just that level of ignorant? I’m done responding here regardless, just curious.
I'll take that as a no, you are not working for Mozilla. You are being childish by calling it "magic algorithms". You don't even know what kind of "AI" FF are talking about...
I would run too, if I were caught in the lies you have spun here.