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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by kristina@hexbear.net to c/fediverse@hexbear.net

so right now im having some pretty major annoyances with how federation is implemented by lemmy as a whole. defed makes it so you cant see whole threads, so looking at AMAs on lemmy.ml from hexbear are essentially useless unless you are viewing the main post, same with technical questions. which means lemmy cant replace reddit for a wide variety of uses. what i guess im asking is, can this be fixed, or is it innate to activitypub?

this is gonna be a huge problem as more and more instances are made. you could see someone make a question post but then you could create duplicate answers, wasting many people's time completely because you cant see each other. its also annoying as fuck that if i enjoy the community here, i have to keep making more and more accounts to access the fediverse as it inevitably becomes more fragmented. so in order to make sure that everyone sees everything youd have to keep creating accounts which is completely antithetical to the idea of the fediverse.

like i'd be ok with not being able to reply to certain instances, or choosing to block instances myself, but having that decision made for me is extremely lame. like if im in some instance talking about star trek or some shit, WHY does it fucking matter that im on a wrongthink instance so certain users cant see or reply to each others shit???

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

like is there not a way to just ban defederating and introduce blocklists at the user level?

[-] silent_water@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

like hexbear isn't federating with the whole fediverse atm either, and doing so was fairly unpopular when we took a poll. there's also like the nazi instances. if federating meant federating with them, we'd be subjecting everyone on hexbear to their shit until they personally took the time to block those communities. and the nazis would be able to spam us by creating new communities people hadn't blocked yet.

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah but if they had block lists that you could subscribe to that'd fix it

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

That’s kinda the same as making an account on an instance which has instance-level white/blacklists. Though I guess the difference is that others can immediately identify and potentially block that account, because it belongs to that instance.

Probably what will end up happening is there ends up being a few generic instances (analogs to gmail.com, icloud.com) which will host anyone who follows some basic TOS. Then it would be very hard for any small instance to block the generic instances.

That, or users are encouraged to create their own private instances and control their federation that way.

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