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[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 51 points 3 days ago

This implies that microplastics were inevitable because of the industrial revolution instead of because of the oil industry destroying regulation for 100 years.

[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Plastic is made from petroleum. Petroleum is natural and good for you. I use a 1/4 tsp of petroleum in my water for flavor and I turned out fine.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

No kidding my MiL said this about eating blackberries right off the highway during leaded gasoline times.

[-] prole 2 points 1 day ago
[-] Emerald@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Well yeah, don't drink leaded gasoline of course, just the unleaded flavor

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

But leaded is presweetened!

[-] uriel238 14 points 3 days ago

According to Karl Marx (in Das Kapital ) the deregulation of industry for sake of profit is inevitable.

It's cheaper to capture government than it is to follow regulations (which, in turn, are meant to serve the public, sometimes protect the public from industry)

Some nations are trying to make the capture process slow or difficult, but none have stopped it, and it only accelerates.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

But supporting their central point, Marx did propose a solution that would ~~make~~ have made microplastics evitable.

[-] uriel238 3 points 3 days ago

Only on the presumption that we didn't detect it and aim for solutions sooner (e.g. invent circular recycling of plastics, replace major causes of microplastics with degradeable alternatives, say, vulcanized rubber with rubber and mushrooms).

Also the society's response in this late hour would probably be more effective than a disinformation campaign and a shrug.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

I think it's safe to assume that if we had stronger regulations, some of which were first implemented 1980, we'd be looking at significantly less than now.

[-] uriel238 4 points 2 days ago

Agreed, but 1980 was the beginning of the Reagan-Bush era and massive environmental deregulation, which only got worse through Clinton and George W. Bush.

The great conservative movement killed conservation.

[-] optissima@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

Your phrasing seems to indicate that you're refuting my point when it strengthens it? Yeah if we had followed the Republican bare minimum instead of letting the bottom drop out it'd already be significantly less of an issue.

[-] prole 1 points 1 day ago

They literally started the comment out with the word "agreed" lol

[-] maccentric@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Would have made—that cat is out of the barn

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