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Orcs and Uruk-Hai discussing dinner
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Taking the eggs encourages egg laying which strains the chicken. It also encourages the enslavement of further generations of chickens and the suffocation or grinding up of male chicks.
You can't enslave animals.
It's actually pretty easy, many of them barely fight back
It's like they know their place.
It's more like they barely know anything. Like toddlers or something.
Toddlers are basically animals, yeah.
All humans are literally animals but also yes
Yeah you can.
no
Yes.
Any arguments on why you think that?
They're not people.
Where have I heard this argument before
are you serious
I'm serious insofar as I think that sentient beings absolutely can be enslaved. Am I drawing the parallel to the rhetoric of racist slaveowners in earnest? No.
I think you've not spent time around any animal other than human if you think that
Wikipedia.
Animals are persons nowadays?
I don’t need Wikipedia to tell me that animals are persons and not property. Anything that has a conscious perspective has personhood.
I wouldn't say having consciousness is enough to define a person.
Why?
I grow the males until they start fucking the shit out of the females, and then eat them before the females become bedraggled. they get a chance to explore, fight and fuck, as they are wont to do.
Hens lay eggs all the time, if they're well-fed. they'll happily eat mice, or other species, or snake eggs, or whatever they find. they're not exactly.. ..kind creatures.
If you isolate them from all other things and treat them as a pet, they'll take on pet behaviors, like a lot of creatures do. but, that's not how they naturally behave.
I have no qualms about treating something better than it would treat me, even if it does end up on my dinner plate. But chickens, like any creature, experience. ..and as such, we should do our best to give them a decent experience overall.
They don’t naturally behave like anything, as they are artificial. Hens don’t lay eggs all the time. We’ve bred them too, at their peril.
They do naturally behave like something, because they have a nature, and a tendency to behave along certain lines - regardless of whether or not we've bred them to be that way.
Hens can lay eggs for a good 13 years in some cases, and can live quite a bit beyond their egg-laying days as well, without peril.
Their peril comes when I decide "I'm going to eat that chicken." And, I kill the chicken in a lot nicer way, likely, than you or I will die, when we do.
Not sure what your point is, you’d rather be murdered than die naturally? It’s okay to breed individuals if you kill them quickly?
being killed for food by a species that is incomprehensibly more complex than I am, and is also relatively humane is really not too big of a deal in my opinion. Go aliens.
Aye I’m sure you’d be fine with it.
Aye. As fine as anyone can be with the death they get.