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I believe in giving people lots of chances at life. But multiples chances don't require seating people into public office.
I am not interested in the Democratic party being used as a chrysalis towards "John Fetterman"-ism or crypto-NAZIsm.
Have you actually looked into the guy or are you just going off of all of the headlines? I really think the tattoo thing has been blown way out of proportion.
“The Nazi tattoo on the candidate’s chest has been blown out of proportion” is a really wild thing to read.
I honestly didn't know that skull was a Nazi symbol either. But now that makes the "Are we the baddies?" Mitchell and Webb skit twice as funny and on point to me.
I thought he was a pirate
Nazis are famous for co-opting popular symbols so i wouldn't blame anyone for not knowing.
But also pretty understandable.Considering how poorly we as Americans are educated on, well, any number of things. Had you gone to the street in any city or town November of last year. And asked people to describe a totenkoph. Even in a very basic generic sense. You would have been lucky to have one out of several thousand be able to do it.
That said, I would gladly take anyone who has made visible mistakes but attempted to learn from them. Over someone who pretends to be perfect any day. The more perfect they look. Generally, the more shit they're hiding.
But did any of the several thousand get it as a tattoo?
I mean, you have to be extremely stupid or caught in a 90s sitcom to get a Nazi tattoo by accident and not figure it out for decades. Neither are particularly good traits for a senator.
I suppose that depends on if you run around bare chested in public a lot. I don't think anyone but him or the people close to him saw it on any given day and gave it much thought. There are whole websites devoted to people getting stupid tattoos on the internet. This isn't some new or disqualifying thing.
Again, I would rather support someone who wears their flaws as a reminder of past mistakes. And the reminder to do better in the future. That plus he has other people speaking for him, who have met him, who know him, who's opinions I value. In the end though, it doesn't really matter as I'm not from the state and won't be voting in that election.
What do you mean accidentally getting a Nazi tattoo is not disqualifying?
It’s better than getting one on purpose, but it’s still an absolutely fucking moronic thing to do. It’s worse than the FUCK THE SYTSEM guy — by a whole lot — and I absolutely would not support the FUCK THE SYTSEM guy to run the government.
And I’m not ready to concede it was an accident.
If someone doesn't identify it as such or know what it is, they just find it appealing for some reason. How is that damning? Damning would be if he knew exactly what it was and got it for that exact reason.
What's really hilarious is that this whole tattoo business is such a non-issue. Largely stirred up by actual fascists in an attempt to help their candidate. He's said far more polarizing things on Reddit, good and bad. But somehow that's not what we're even debating. If you are a potential constituent, please go and inform yourself. Look at the things he said. Look at his platform.And most importantly, look at what he chosen to do. The actually important things to make a decision on.
Dude. It’s a Nazi tattoo. A NAZI tattoo. A NAZI TATTOO.
It’s not a non issue. If you think Nazi tattoos are hunky dory, you are a part of the problem.
So simply having any sort of Nazi symbol on whether or not you know it's a Nazi symbol makes you a Nazi. Not your actions or your thoughts. We should all just judge books by their covers?
And even if he was, people should be given an opportunity to change and grow. Because if we don't allow people to change and grow and acknowledge it. Then what's the motivation for them to do it in the first place. Graham is a grade A meathead no doubt. But just like every LGBTQIA person, he is more than skin deep.
It doesn’t necessarily make you a Nazi, but it does make you a moron at the very least, and it raises the odds of you being a Nazi by like a billion percent.
Is this really the best you guys can do?
Your words and actions make you a Nazi, whether or not you have a single Nazi design scrawled on your skin. There's reason they're not attacking him for his positions or platforms. Or anything that he's actually said and sticking to this whole Nazi tattoo thing.
Straight up the man has said some profoundly stupid things in his lifetime. But to his credit. Every time someone has engaged with him and explained the problems with it, he's actually shown the willingness and desire to listen and learn. which is an admirable thing. People could do a lot worse. If you want to see how a real Nazi behaves, observed the Hegseth tattoo controversy. They don't need to hide it anymore. They're in power. And they're pretty open about it.
Not everyone thinks much about the symbolic meaning of a tattoo - I certainly couldn't have identified the Totenkopf before seeing his tattoo and doubt I've seen one in the decade prior (at least where it was clearly a symbol being used by nazis). So unless someone at like a public swimming area where I decided to go topless pointed it out, I there's a good chance none of the people close to me would recognize it either.
I could totally buy the "I got a generic skull and cross bones tattoo cause it look cool" excuse if it wasn't for posting in a thread about the Nazi Totenkopf 6 years ago (long after getting his tattoo) and either not realizing it matched his tattoo (and him not being covered in like dozens of tats) or not caring to get it covered up/removed immediately. https://undelete.pullpush.io/r/CombatFootage/comments/auy0bi/_/ehbh3n6/?context=4
Apparently he also defended people getting SS thunderbolt (something I'd be surprised for a self-proclaimed military history buff would be aware of being a nazi symbol, even if not the Totenkopf) tattoos, both on reddit and response to being called out for his nazi tattoo recently. And two people have told reporters that he's talked about how his tattoo looks like a nazi tattoo to them (granted, if it were just anonymous "acquaintances" claiming this, I wouldn't trust them reporters at all).
Oof. Everything up to that I can potentially write off as dumb marine, but damn.