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A problem with those discussions is a lack of nuance and knowledge.
You'll get Americans, who'd hear some western Europeans complain about 'gypsies', assume they're racist against the Roma, not realising they're often talking about Irish travellers who aren't Roma at all. Not sure if the latter is racism, in the strictest sense. Invariably still bigotry though.
You'll get Eastern Europeans complaining about Roma like they're all the criminals, who are entirely oblivious to the fact that they themselves interact with Roma on regular basis without any issue. If you spend a bit of time in Eastern Europe, you'll soon realise that a lot of Roma pass as non-Roma. They often aren't considered Roma or don't openly call themselves Roma, so much so that some will even vote for a virulent racist like Orban.
Then there's the Western Europeans, who may have had bad experiences with a Roma gang (which unfortunately is a thing), who become incredibly defensive when you point out they shouldn't stereotype all Roma and end up pretending anti-Romani racism isn't a huge problem. Anti-Romani racism like when a member of Orban's Fidesz party comes out with statements calling Roma animals and describing them as a problem that needs to be solved by any means (I'm quoting almost literally).
In my experience, European racism and bigotry really is far more complex, due to the lack of a melting pot, especially outside larger cities. Far more intersectionality and added classism, nationalism, regionalism, etc. Sometimes people will hate you if you're from the wrong side of the river, and I'm only half joking.
I'm so tired of it, that once my parents die, I'll be moving to a large cosmopolitan city. Things are better there. Suppose that's not so different in the US.
Sorry for the long comment.