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[-] protist@mander.xyz 192 points 2 days ago

This probably didn't actually happen, but I did have a physics class in college where we had an exam where the highest score was 35%, so it was graded on an absurd curve

[-] Dalvoron@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 days ago

Grading on a curve is always absurd to me: it's a cop out for teachers who don't know how to set curriculum/exams properly and demeans the education process.

Should just be

  • here's a list of things you learn in this class
  • you demonstrate understanding and skill over about 60% of that list
  • you get a grade of 60%
[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 28 points 2 days ago

While I mostly agree with you, the grading on a curve idea comes from two factors On one hand, the idea that knowing some topics very well can absolve you from knowing other topics at a sufficient level. On the other, people making the exercises for the exams are experts and can easily overlook the hidden difficulties of an exercise. So it happens way too often that a professor would think “this exercise is super easy” and miss that it uses concepts from other courses the students are not super familiar yet.

Add to this that exams need to be different each year to prevent cheating and you can easily get a few bad questions.

[-] TheLadyAugust@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

A lot of professors are overworked with classes and programs too. One of my girlfriends uas a professor for anatomy who teaches two full college courses before going to her massage school to teach anatomy. She says you can tell that the professor isn't really there mentally. Sge never actually prepares for the courses she's supposed to be teaching, but you can tell us just from exhaustion. I wonder how many are like that and just forget what coursework they're currently preparing for others.

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 6 points 2 days ago

In my uni, professors are expected to teach almost 220h/years of in person teaching (correcting doesn’t count, nor preparing), on top of “being a team playing” and doing quite some extra bureaucratic work. Obviously on top of doing their own research. Good teachers (professors that care about teaching quality) look like ghosts by the end of the academic year…

Each college does it differently. Some allow professors to choose research vs teaching, some require a fixed balance.

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 1 points 1 day ago

Never heard of being able to choose

Yup. Some have research-only professors, and some expect all professors to teach classes. It really depends on the university.

[-] Eq0@literature.cafe 2 points 1 day ago

Ah, I misunderstood. Yeah, that’s common, but not a choice, they are different types of positions, with different fundings usually. You can’t switch between them

Right. I meant "choice" as in professors can work it out with the dean. If the professor doesn't like the answer from the dean, they can shop around for another university.

[-] Dalvoron@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago

On the first point I agree. In my country, 40-50% is a pass usually and that seems crazy for its own reasons. But a curve can make that worse just as easily as it can make it better. The education system I work in is now introducing the idea that not only do you need to hit 50% to pass, you also have to show a competency with every learning outcome on the curriculum. We'll see how it goes. My subject areas haven't been hit yet.

The second point is essentially what I said, it's a cop out for a teacher who is bad at setting exams. Easily fixed by some QA and/or collaboration. At least run it by a TA. Also they should read the curriculum before writing an assessment.

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