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[-] MrSmiley@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

The incentive is that resources are lootable, that doesn’t change by swapping out one ideology for another. We can point to the post-WWII eastern bloc, Cuba, and Afghanistan as examples of USSR installing dictators. Ideologies tend to be too myopic in their understanding of reality, all systems have a tendency to form into dominance hierarchies, that’s the core issue. Fortunately, all systems decay over time and after collapse there is a period of time where a decentralized, democratic system can exist for a period of time.

[-] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

I won't brush away the missteps and abuses of certain leaders. We must, however, place these injustices in their proper context.

Socialist countries faced opposition from the most economically and politically powerful nation in the history of the Earth. Given the successes that socialist economies did achieve -- in providing healthcare, housing, transportation, food, jobs, etc. -- can you imagine how much more successful they could have been had the United States helped instead of destabilized them at every turn? But the US could not peacefully allow us to develop socialist production of goods for direct consumption. This economic model is a direct threat to the capitalist's appropriation of profits.

Fortunately, all systems decay over time and after collapse there is a period of time where a decentralized, democratic system can exist for a period of time.

I hope you're right, but time will tell.

[-] prole 4 points 1 month ago

I think Castro was incredibly popular in Cuba from the beginning. They were not forced into communism.

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