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framework doesn't rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
submitted 1 week ago by carotte to c/microblogmemes@lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/32868516

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The whole open source community loves Milkshake Laptops, a lovely laptop company that has ethical values! 5 seconds later We regret to inform you the laptop company stans fascists

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[-] carotte 69 points 1 week ago

i’ve linked to more context in the original post

but the TL;DR is:

  • framework has started to financially support open-source project
  • among those projects are hyprland and omarchy, both having ties to the far-right (hyprland’s community is a toxic nazi bar and omarchy is maintained by a loud and proud racist)
  • people were understandably upset at framework for this
  • framework’s response was "nooo you guys, we are apolitical! we are trying to make a big tent! and that includes fascists too, stop being meanies!"
[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 week ago

I read the links provided in the other thread. This seems to be a bit of an overreaction.

[-] frezik 41 points 1 week ago

Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.

Lean on Framework. Insist they vet projects before giving them money. There's nothing here that can't be undone.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 week ago

Let me sum up the reasons.

DHH wrote a blog post on his experience with immigration in the UK. Some people think that makes him a Nazi. He also runs the omarchy distribution.

There was a transphobic post on hyprland‘s Discord, which was unmoderated at the time.

[-] RushLana 25 points 1 week ago

It's not one comment from hyperland, it's an harasement campain that led them to be baned from freedesktop.org and rightfully so.

And the blog post you liked is a rant that there not enough white people in london while supporting the tommy robinson march ( a nazi event ).

[-] frezik 22 points 1 week ago

Funny how there's already people downplaying how bad it actually is.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I did not like that blog post.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 11 points 1 week ago

You sure seem to be defending it a lot though.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I linked it to give people the opportunity to read and form their own opinion. Posting a link is now defending?

DHH has been a controversial person for decades. I understand when people don’t want to be connected to him.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 12 points 1 week ago

You started off calling it all overblown, without even looking at all the other right wing blog posts he's made.

Thats putting a pretty hefty slant to start things off, yeah.

[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That blog post is quite racist, or at the very least, xenophobic.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 week ago

Why am I not surprised you think that one post is the only issue.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago

Well, it was the only one that I know of. If you know others, then please share.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 10 points 1 week ago

Sure, here's a quote of a comment I made on the other post:

They said a hint of the kind of person, you took that to nazi. There is a lot more up on DHH's blog... including complaining about being called a nazi, btw.

Because, you know.... he's a nazi. Even that "wahhhh" post is just full of nazi talking points.

Edit: Just to be clear, this is not the only example.

https://world.hey.com/dhh/words-are-not-violence-c751f14f

https://world.hey.com/dhh/national-pride-f7aa1e92

https://world.hey.com/dhh/it-s-beginning-to-feel-like-the-80s-in-america-again-68c2708e

https://world.hey.com/dhh/the-parental-dead-end-of-consent-morality-e4e8a8ee

I really don't understand how anyone can say he isn't what he is - a nazi.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

Thank you for sharing these.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There's nothing here that can't be undone.

I firmly disagree. Anyone who doesn't actually know what framework is, will see them via a google search on the laptop in passing interest. Anyone who comes across a post like this when researching isn't going to continue further to see if they got better, just like people who make these posts aren't going to go back and change their comments saying otherwise.

Additionally, It's optimistic to say that they should vet projects before giving them money but, chances are this is going to just dissuade them from giving money to projects in the future.

But this is also assuming this actually takes off, Lemmy has been the only area I've even seen the complaints about framework

[-] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Overreaction is the only tool that works to stop enshittification before it starts.

Overreacting can undermine your cause. I don't see how reacting accordingly cannot "stop enshittification before it starts".

[-] kadu@scribe.disroot.org 21 points 1 week ago

Well, out of all projects they funded, they just so happen to mention the nazi one significantly more than the others on Twitter. They like mentioning it a lot.

And it's not an important package or some foundational project.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I agree that these are fringe projects and framework should spend their money on more important ones.

[-] crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

Why is it an overreaction? They mention these weird arch dotfiles so much, people just wanted an answer.

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