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[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 8 points 5 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

[Deleted] because I don't want more responses to a misunderstanding. Clarified here.

https://lemmy.ml/comment/21513129

[-] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 9 points 5 days ago

Least unhinged .ml user.

[-] princessnorah 7 points 5 days ago

You might be right, but you're still being an arsehole about it.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Eh, I was wrong because the pronoun being referred to was not the same. The reply to my original comment missed my point and I didn't realize it.

If you think I was right then you probably had the same misunderstanding I did. I responded to clarify that above. My assholeness was definitely true.

[-] BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I'm not reading that, I was just pointing out some facts of language.

Apparently facts can trigger

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 days ago

The Mona Lisa is an it even though it depicts a historical person. It's also a she. It hangs in the Louvre and her smile has captivated millions. Gender is a social construct and we can nudge society different directions. We can encourage people to maintain a distinction between real people and imitations.

[-] BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

The painting is an it but the subject in the painting is a she.

I think you're going to get some funny looks if you called a female cartoon character or something an it. Which is what OP insisted we do

[-] m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

Computer programs/statistical models are its though.

[-] BillBurBaggins@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah referring to it either way is fine. Everyone would understand what you mean, but saying that using she is incorrect isn't right.

Language is about describing things so that people understand and literally nobody will have a hard time when she is used. Which means that it's correct despite your opinions about AI

[-] SaraTonin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

I think society has long established that we give inanimate objects and constructs gender. Bart Simpson is a he, despite being a cartoon voiced by a woman. He‘s often written by a woman, too, and the animation team will be mixed (although probably leaning male). Yet he remains a he in popular parlance.

Perhaps more akin to this situation, there’s a long tradition of referring to animated singers by the gender they present as. Gem & the Holograms are referred to as female, as are Josie & the Pussycats. Hatsune Miku - possibly the most direct comparison, being the first and most well-known “virtual singer” - is always a “she”. None of these are real people or based on real people.

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