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[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 302 points 3 days ago

She’s still a little kid. They made her suffer.

I think that's needlessly infantilizing her. She's 22. She's not a "little kid". I think she's old enough for her opinions to carry weight, so how is she a "little kid"?

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 114 points 3 days ago

The youth should have their opinions respected too.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 87 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm not going to take political opinions from a 3 year old, which is about what I'm thinking when someone says "little kid". Teenagers, like she was when she got famous, can have enough context about the world that their opinions, particularly about things like sustainability, equality, etc, are valid.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, I feel you, I remember aggroing over verbiage like that when I was younger, but as I am now approaching my upper 30s, I find myself referring to basically 25 yos and under as 'kids', its not necesarrily always meant in a demeaning, infantilzing way, can be meant more in the sense of...

... 'has their whole life ahead of them still, it shouldn't be marred or maimed or traumatized this early' /

/ 'they are adults technically yes, but they have far less experience than most other adults' /

/ 'they are too young to be beset by such cruelty and hardship, there should be other adults being better adults such that these awful things do not happen.'

I guess what I am trying to say is it becomes a kind of genuine, broad protective connotation, not trying to be belittling, moreso a lament that the world has failed.

Maybe call it a bungled attempt at intergenerational solidarity.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 19 points 3 days ago

The thing is, she wasn't just called a kid, but a "little kid".

Sure, I'd call early 20s kids too. Hell, I'm a kid, I'm only turning 30 this year. But I wouldn't call someone a "little kid" once they hit their teenage years. The "little" is what makes the difference in tone. Could've said "she's just a kid" and it would've been a believable attempt at intergenerational solidarity.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 3 days ago

Keep in mind that we're talking about a translation here. The phrase quoted might not have the same connotations in Turkish as it does in English.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago

Part of the job of a translator is to get those details right.

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 days ago

Oh shit I didn't ever clock that, yeah, yeah this kind of slight difference in phrasing between acceptable and unnaceptable stuff gets a million times more confusing when you are literally moving between languages.

Great example of that: Why are there so many different Bible translations and why do so many people argue about which one is better?

[-] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I absolutely think of 22 as a little kid, but I was there when the last Woolly Mammoth died, so it’s somewhat relative.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago

Idk, to me "little kid" means "not in school yet". It's the "little" that makes the difference, compared to just calling someone a kid or kiddo.

[-] aeternum 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm with you. Little kids are like infants and toddlers and shit. Not a 22 year old adult woman.

[-] themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well someone who is above 40 will probably think of her as a little kid while someone who 28 for example will probably think that they are close in age. Though this doesn't matter no one deserves to be treated like this regardless of age.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm 46. Nobody over the age of 12 is is a "little" kid to me. I can't imagine ever calling a legal adult a little kid.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 days ago

What do you mean it's not 2015??? /s

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