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[-] blave@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Wrong

“Ownership“ doesn’t mean “I can do whatever I want with it”.

edit: wow, Redditors are better at accepting the truth, lol

[-] GrantsGhost@piefed.zip 77 points 2 days ago
[-] blave@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

you think people who own guns should be allowed to "do whatever they want" with them?

how many mass shootings do we already have each week?

[-] GrantsGhost@piefed.zip 50 points 2 days ago

Thats Apples and Oranges. Owning a phone is not like owning a a gun.

[-] artyom@piefed.social 11 points 2 days ago

They can do whatever they want with them, that's why we have shootings.

[-] Attacker94@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

If they don't break the law then yes

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 42 points 2 days ago

edit: wow, Redditors are better at accepting the truth, lol

So go pander to them.

If I own something, I can do whatever I like with it because it's mine.

If I can't do what I like, it's not truly mine.

[-] Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

"Ownership" totally does mean it's yours and you can do whatever you want with it.

That means you can do it, not that you should, nor that what you do won't have consequences.

It just means your phone won't stop you from downloading an unapproved app just like a gun won't stop you from loading an unapproved bullet.

It means your gun has a safety mechanism you can unlock to shoot, as does your phone to download "unverified" apps.

It means you can sell either freely to someone else without it becoming bricked or the new owner losing any rights (lookin' at you, Tesla cars).

It means defaulting on the loan will require the physical reposession of your phone or gun, and that neither will magically lock you out of using it using telemetry.

It means anyone with the right knowledge and tools can fix your phone and it'll work, just like your gun.

It means your phone works for you, and not for someone else - just like your gun.

Your phone is a tool. Just like your gun. It can be used for good - and for bad.

What you do with it is up to you, and not up to it or its manufacturer.

It means you can shoot people with your gun, just as you can extort and blackmail people with your phone. Nothing, other than your own morality, the morals of society and therule of law are preventing you from doing bad things. Certainly not the will of the manufacturer.

Any forensic inquiry into a phone on a crime scene would be like that of a gun.

Any taking of your phone from your home or person would require a warrant - like with a gun.

Any inquiry into your phone's contents and qualities should require outside tools - like a similar inquiry into your gun.

Your phone won't have a special police-only history of what you've used it for - like your gun.

Your phone won't report what you've been doing with it to 3rd parties without your consent - like won't your gun.

And so on.

[-] JackFrostNCola@aussie.zone 4 points 2 days ago

As a non-american, using a gun as your comparison object is just so bizarre (and unrelatable).

[-] teft@piefed.social 21 points 2 days ago

I love when newbie accounts think lemmy is reddit. Makes them easier to ignore.

[-] Lfrith@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Its also funny how they edit their comment on their downvotes because it upset them.

[-] Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 days ago

But that's what it means. Or at least, it used to

[-] INHALE_VEGETABLES@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Truth post. You don't even have to enjoy the facts that you post. Lemmy is far too unhinged and emotional.

If you state any fact they don't like, you are downvoted.

I lovingly embrace any and all ironic downvotes I will get.

Seeth with me ❤️

this post was submitted on 03 Oct 2025
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