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you think people who own guns should be allowed to "do whatever they want" with them?
how many mass shootings do we already have each week?
Thats Apples and Oranges. Owning a phone is not like owning a a gun.
Except we aren't talking about the law. We are talking about corporations that sell you something and then retain control over it.
You have no say in the process, you have no representation. These are not rules that we as a society have determined to be in the best interests of all of us. These are unilateral decisions placed upon us. You have no recourse if you disagree other than don't use the thing.
Guns don't prevent you from doing anything. You still have the capability to do whatever you want with the thing. However, if you use it in a manner than harms someone else, in a way that we as a society have proposed, voted, and created laws prohibiting, then you deal with the consequences. But that is very different from having something in the gun that prevents it from taking ammo from another manufacturer. Or making it unable to shoot unless you pay a monthly fee.
No. We weren't. This discussion was about phones and the software we are being allowed to install on them.
The law does nothing to restrict us in that capacity. The restrictions are imposed by the manufacturer of the phone.
You made the fallacious false equivalency of comparing that with guns and laws.
What makes you think the ICEBlock app removal is about the law or following the law?
Right, you can't break the law. Gun manufacturers are very explicitly not responsible if you break the law with one of the items they manufactured.
This is more like the gun manufacturer coming back two years after you bought it and preventing you from using bullets from a vendor they don't approve of.
They can do whatever they want with them, that's why we have shootings.
If they couldn't, then they wouldn't, but they obviously can, because they do. This is not complicated.
I feel like I am feeding a troll, but let me break this down:
If you have a gun, you can point it at anything and pull the trigger, you don't need the permission of the manufacturer to do so.
Not with a phone, you CAN'T load any software you want into your phone.
That's the difference, you can do whatever you want with a gun, and if you mess up, you go to jail. You can't do whatever you want with your phone, only what the corp.s (apple) allow you to.
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Go lick a boot mate.
...you just said it did. That was the initiation of this entire conversation.
If they don't break the law then yes