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Saturated fat causes heart disease. Unsaturated fat causes inflammation. Trans fats are basically poison. Protein is bad for your kidneys. Carbs cause cardiovascular disease. Glucose causes diabetes. Fructose is bad for your liver. Alcohol will fuck your liver over but good. Not eating calories at all will make you starve to death.
Could you show me the non-epidemiological proof of this? If not possible, epidemiology with significant risk ratios, or absolute risk illustrated? In the epidemiology did they control for carbohydrates and sugar (no). The reading I've done indicates this is not the case
What is the mechanism here? Seed oils do cause inflammation due to the interference with cholesterol sites.
Sure, agree
Could you show me the proof of this please? My reading is the opposite.
Yes, absolutely.
The key here is carbs are just glucose, so they are the root of metabolic problems. You can't have diabetes without carbs, and without the carbs you wont develop CVD.
Strong agree
Yup, We have the double whammy of NAFLD and AFLD swapping in frequency, due to all the carbs and gluclose.
Agreed, so someone needs to eat a food low in carbohydrates, glucose, alcohol, fructose... I would strongly encourage people to eat a diet rich in protein and saturated fat, but any whole food eating pattern would be better then the current state of affairs.
Mostly what I meant was more that every kind of calorie source is vilified by someone who imagines themselves an authority. I probably should have put each of those sentences in quotes or something make it clear I wasn't stating them as fact, but just as the sort of thing that people say. But, to talk about where I've heard these things mentioned:
Calories-wise, in my own diet:
I've seen no controversy here, the metabolic pathway is the same, its mechanical and observable. There are people saying whole fruits are a net-benefit in-spite of this. But I haven't seen any serious advocate pushing for high fructose corn syrup as a health food.
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I think this study is just saying that extremes are bad and you should eat a balanced diet.
I found it really interesting they found a dose dependent relationship in carbohydrate percentages ranging from 60%-80%. It's very suggestive that maybe the relationship extends even below 60%