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Ukraine’s Drone Blitz Plunges Russia Into Worst-Ever Fuel Crisis, Knock Out 38% of Refining Capacity (united24media.com)

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[-] manxu@piefed.social 70 points 6 days ago

Russia after one million of theirs died in a pointless war: yawn
Russia after they have to wait ten hours in line at the gas station: REVOLUTION

I am glad Ukraine has found a strategic target that harms the enemy economy without committing war crimes. Oil refineries are obvious, valid war targets.

I continue being amazed at how much Ukraine can achieve with restraint, and how little Russia accomplishes by committing serial war crimes.

[-] rockerface@lemmy.cafe 11 points 6 days ago

It's almost like war crimes aren't actually very effective at winning the war, and only serve to satisfy the pointless cruelty of people giving the orders.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 days ago

It's already known since WWII and the Battle Of Britain that bombing civilian populations doesn't decrease their resolve, quite the contrary.

Whilst some of Russia bombing (such as that of power generation) does make military sense, for the last year or so it looks like strategically Ukraine is way more effective at damaging Russian war efforts with long range attacks than the other way around.

Further, it also looks like Ukraine, with it's proportionally much smaller territory, is much more effective at AA defense.

It's funny that since Ukraine started making their own weaponry for in-depth attacks (as, shamelessly, Western powers did not provide them from the start with cruise missiles), Russia's "Big Country" advantage is being turned into a disadvantage.

[-] Tuuktuuk@piefed.ee 3 points 5 days ago

I'd like to correct that it's one million of their soldiers lost in a pointless war, not died. About 2/3 of those losses are severe permanent injuries that render the soldier useless for military use.

The goal of Ukraine is not to kill the maximum amount of orcs, but to neutralize the maximum amount of orcs.

You can see it this way: There are, in any case, about two serious injuries per one death. In human armies it tends to be about five injuries per one death, but in the Russian army a lot of people who would end up counting as "injured" end up counting as "dead", as there is no healthcare available for them. If there really were 1,1 million dead, the total losses would be in the ballpark of 3½ million soldiers. And the Russian military has not lost 3½ million soldiers yet. Therefore, it must be that the number includes also the seriously permanently wounded.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

Very very true and my mistake. At the same time, the severely wounded come back with horror stories and are likely to need help, straining resources ever further.