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Remind me, which browser is Cloudlfare making?
You compared the Cloudflare situation to "taking money from Google" and added that due to Ladybird taking money from Cloudflare, they're "not challenging the status quo".
Ladybird being a browser has absolutely no bearing on webhosting and the only status quo it can challenge is in the browser market. Which implies that you think Cloudflare has something to do with the browser market.
Again: what does Cloudflare have to do with the browser market...?
And you don't think that financing a third party browser to break the duopoly is "doing more"?
This is like saying "the duopoly that reigns the water is Maersk and Smartwater", two companies that do completely different things that just happen to be related to water...
Mate, we're talking about the BROWSER MARKET.
Even assuming Ladybird somehow gains 100% of that market, completely kicking out anything Chromium related, it has ZERO bearing on who people choose for their host! Cloudflare currently has around 20% of that market, and if Ladybird - today - goes up to 100% share of the browser market, Cloudflare will still hold 20% of hosting!
You're talking about some overarching Internet revolution, while the thread is about a single aspect of how people reach the Internet!
Google's Chrome used to be only about 60% compliant with W3C guidelines. They still became the de-facto default browser and so the guidelines changed to better match Chrome's interpretation.
It's already happened when Microsoft released the first version of Edge. Google killed it by making it "incompatible" with its services.
Cloudflare? By giving money to a project aiming at breaking up the duopoly...?