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Trump Voters in Coal Country Are Becoming Bernie Bros
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It does matter. These are the same people keenly aware that their grandfathers instigated insurrections against their exploitation.
Learn your history, boy.
Our history is them voting one way and people like Mitch McConnell bring us right here while they reelect them.
History shows they are a bunch of mornic idiots and if they happen to do the right thing that’d be a nice surprise but history doesn’t paint them in a good light no matter what you their grandfathers did while raising father that did the opposite…
Who’s kicking them? It’s an internet comment stating how shitty they have been and how little trust they deserve.
Let someone else suck their dick cause they may pay Bernie lip service… vs decades of voting data and the harm their very political participation has caused? You’d have to be stupid to start fawning over them now. Let them prove it then I’ll say cool. They’ve actively proved otherwise throughout my lifetime so this article ain’t moving the needle.
I just literally told you that some of the now reddest states used to be blue and literally instigated insurrections to stick it to the man. Just treat them decently and they will abandon Trump. The fight isn’t over and the democratic party right now is changing. You don’t see it cause nobody reports about it but Bernie is literally talking with ‘the deplorables’ and winning them back on reason and sympathy. That is amazing. And MAGA has nothing to fight that but ignorance and outrage farming.
Oh yea I’m sure they will, just like after Bush crashed the economy… just like after Trump’s first term… just like when my magic fairy?
This is not about a miracle cure for their issues. This is about awareness for who understands their issues. Even the most basic coal worker understands that a politician cannot just swing a wand and fix their issues. But they also understand that not giving tax breaks to billionaires but to them would go a long way.
Totally true, they have shown a historical trend AWAY from awareness… so why should I trust them to be aware now? Even the most basic coal worker has not understood these issues for DECADES FOR FUCKS SAKE. All while voting in republicans to take it worse.
If they want to be different they needed to vote differently BEFORE now. Until then why not assume they will vote the same?
Have you even read what I posted? Have you looked into their history and voting behaviour?
You commit the exact error of dismissal that made them vote red. Bravo.
Yea I personally made them vote red. Thats the issue here… have you read what I said? There are decades of behavior contradicting you…
On top of that are you saying a simple dismissal is what makes folks act that way…? Clearly I guess you think it’s not their fault… it’s my dismissal… the snowflakes… no accountability there…
Simply delete my account and we can have a utopia… Bravo with a fucking mindset thinner than paper…
Defeatist.
Totally, believing you is.
I’m glad you understand that. There’s nothing I’m saying otherwise but you’ve landed yourself into a corner where you have to be a defeatist to even entertain the bullshit you’ve flooded this place with in the mean time.
I suppose you have figured it all out on your own.
Truth be told a lot of people (call it a society?) can figure stuff out that helps a society (call it everyone ?) and do good! Or we can cast doubt and wreck hell and say that anyone calling that a bad thing must “have it all figured out on their own…”
You’re right it’s on my own and totally has nothing to do with the crazy shit you have just been messaging…
Are you serious? I just pointed out that the fascists haven’t won yet and you call that ‘crazy’?
That's ironic.
I am specifically talking about the coal counties.
Where were your kin at the Battle of Blair Mountain? Why’d you let California vote for Reagan? See how unhelpful these criticisms are.
I’m not criticizing the battle of whatever I’m criticizing every vote after the fact.
Why Cali elected Reagan is nothing when you look at California SINCE THEN.
Tell me about Appalachia or Kentucky since then…
I'll be cantankerous... yes.
I live in a red state. My jobs are me the rare left in the entire crowd. I have to learn how to talk, chat, joke with these people. And last Trump administration I kept talking with them. Things I learned. Since I wasn't willing to immediately extol the good of Trump, I must be against him (not even talking politics, just me keeping my mouth shut.) That they're against many of the things on helping people.
But hell, years of working with one crew, I was getting them over, realizing that the wealthy were fucking us over, that the insurance that was fucking everyone over was why we needed better. That many of the "sullied" republicans were against it. Hell I think one thing that got them listening was they said something good about Biden, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and made a snark about Trump and when I was told "I said something good about your guy" I outright tore into them to never say that Biden was "my guy", I may look at lesser of evils but it wasn't some fucking football game.
But I saw chances... I saw hope that maybe... maybe they could learn. But the second Trump started running again, it was the same parroted stuff, even from a soybean ventures guy who was watching to see if his prices would ever go back up because he was losing money on it.
So no... I don't trust them. I think there are some who need to be out there to welcome the people when they're willing to join sides, yes... but there also needs to be those to remind that these are not friends, and they are very likely to stab us in the back unless they actually show that they're willing to put the work in to make change.
The thing with those types is that they hate black people and LGBT folk much more than they believe in anything the Bern is saying
I think the point is that voting will no longer help them.
Wrong. We are not yet at the point that democracy has failed. That is the sort of defeatism that the fascists want you to fall for so you disengage.
If you know history, then you would know we're past the point of no return.
This is false. We are not. I see the fascists just as you do but there is so much potential for resistance precisely because of awareness. If we just give up, they win.
I concede. I agree and hope we're right.
It isn’t important that we are right. This isn’t the world we live in anymore. What matters is the pathos of their grandfathers that reminds them that personal action matters that if TACO is not actually fixing their situation they CAN fight against the dying of the light. Fascism roles on vibes. These vibes can be turned against them as the vast majority of us americans does not have an understanding of federal policies or history. But they see their bank accounts and they see that orange Hitler does not help them.
Thebes liberated the Greek city states from their Spartan conquerers.
Thebes was in turn conquered by Phillip II of Macedonia, after he was taught by the general that led Thebes to that victory.
Thebes was destroyed by Alexander, Phillip's son, after they rebelled against his rule.
When offered the choice to surrender and spare their city, they refused and fought to the death for their liberty.
Does the empire of Alexander still stand? Did democracy die forever with Phillip's conquests?
Nothing lasts forever. And fascism has rarely lasted long historically.
Unfortunately, while voting is bloodless, ousting fascism, after idiots vote it in, takes many lives.
We’ll see. It’s been ousted bloodlessly before but it’s not easy.
I would love to read about any examples you provide!
I’m not an expert but one example is the downfall of Pinochet. I’m sure there are others too.
At least Hitler was smart. Trump is a bumbling idiot.
Hitler was also a bumbling idiot. He just had stimulants