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[-] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 2 weeks ago

just had a silly idea: stopping your torrent right as it starts to seed (to avoid ISP letters) is like pulling out as a form of birth control

[-] Arnl@lemmy.zip 67 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, but you still seed while you download

[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 56 points 2 weeks ago

Meta's legal defense was that they limited seeding to a minimal value as a precaution when they pirated terabytes of books. Of course, I don't expect the same ruling would be granted to an individual... Shit is fucked.

[-] fading_person@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 weeks ago

So they downloaded it all to train their models and didn't even seed back!?

[-] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, beacuse that would be distribution of copyrighted materials...

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 21 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 2 weeks ago

How do I delete someone else's comment?

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 8 points 2 weeks ago

Has the law in any jurisdiction determined that sharing some small fraction of bits is equivalent to sharing an entire series of bits? And how do they determine that? Like I’m sending 1s and 0s right now. Is that a violation?

[-] Scrollone@feddit.it 11 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, at that point everything is legal if we pretend to just send "random" 0s and 1s

[-] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago

But there must be some kind of burden of proof, right? If I leech 0.001% of a file, have I really pirated that file? If yes, then how small does the amount go? If no, then how large does it go? Or if they have to prove intent, well then that can go to trial…

[-] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 weeks ago

In the piratebay trial, just announcing the hashes was bad enough for a conviction

[-] prole 4 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, that's kind of what encrypted traffic looks like to anyone without the private key

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Did a little digging around. It looks like they manage to get discovery judgments all the time over partial downloads, but I don't see them actually taking anyone to court for anything less than a full file.

Once you have the entire file available, it's hard to shimmy around the distribution claims. Wouldn't it be super effing interesting if everyone's torrent client specifically picked a random block and refused to give it to anyone?

I'm not sure it would hold up in court, but it would be interesting.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

Coitus interruptus

One of the few latin expression I memorized, because that's how the Catholic Church calls it since that's their recommended "contraception" method, all of which I find hilarious.

[-] kieron115@startrek.website 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That’s… not how it works. A law firm rep (usually) just has to connect to the swarm and see what IPs are there. It matters not if you share, being in the swarm is enough for them to send your ISP a notice of infringement. So as others said, use protection.

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