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[-] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 60 points 3 weeks ago

Wrong. While a large number of communist labelled regimes were in fact totalitarian regimes (whether they actually were communist is another debate), totalitarianism is not inherent to communism (and it can be argued that a democratic foundation is necessary for communism or that communism is the democratisation of labour). However, fascism is characterised by (among others) an extreme form of authoritarianism (i.e. totalitarianism) that is structured after the Führerprinzip.

[-] midribbon_action 19 points 3 weeks ago

Lots of things can be argued in academics. The largest communist experiments have been totalitarian. The idea that democracy is a core component to a communist society is now more commonly referred to as democratic socialism.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago

Democratic socialism isn't socialism, except with democracy lmao.

[-] midribbon_action 7 points 3 weeks ago

Great argument, once again. By the virtue of simply disagreeing with me, you've proven yourself smarter. Wonderful job.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 14 points 3 weeks ago

Instead of doubling down, why don't you do some research on Venezuela to understand what context democratic socialism applies to, or literally just look up the structure of any communist party (Hint: its democratic)

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Looks at the CCP...

Wow, it's so Democratic, I say nervously.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well they regularly act in the interest of the people against the interest of the bourgeois.

But maybe they mostly do what the people want because they just want power and their system rewards that.

[-] CubitOom@infosec.pub 6 points 3 weeks ago

Hahaha, someone over here thinks that the Chinese Communist Party is actually Communist. But also some how Democratic.

Hahahahahahaha

[-] xep@discuss.online 2 points 3 weeks ago

Based on recent events, I really don't know if that's true.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 4 points 3 weeks ago

Which events are you talking about?

[-] Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 3 weeks ago

@Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz @alcoholicorn@hexbear.net

the structure of any communist party (Hint: its democratic)

Which communist party is or was democratic?

[-] doben@lemmy.wtf 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Democratic centralism is a Leninist organisational principle of most communist parties, in which decisions are made by a process of vigorous and open debate amongst party membership, and action is subsequently binding upon all members of the party.

Democratic centralism

The organization of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) is based upon the Leninist concept of democratic centralism.

Organization of the Chinese Communist Party

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 9 points 3 weeks ago

Same guy, I made this account when I traveled to China, because HB and .ml are blocked. Ironically, .world isn't. I stayed because less drama.

Which communist party is or was democratic

Nearly all of them, though in practice there are varying levels of corruption. A Vietnamese is much more likely to say "socialism means our government has to listen everyone" than an American say "democracy means our government has to listen to everyone". Cuba is a particularly good example of democracy.

[-] midribbon_action 2 points 3 weeks ago

So, just "you're wrong" again. Great discourse we're having.

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