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[-] trager_bombs@lemmy.world 140 points 16 hours ago

Frankly, I don't even think Hillary gives a shit about covering for Bill at this stage- The argument that anyone is trying to protect Bill is idiotic.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Right? The time when there might have been some kind of large amount of people wanting to cover for him was maybe...2 and half decades ago? The guy isn't in power, no one cares enough for any of that...

It's mostly the butthurt cons that were spreading black helicopter nonsense and swapping copies of the Clinton Body Count over email back in the 90s that are still obsessed with Bill (and Hillary).

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 85 points 15 hours ago

And if she did give a shit about covering for Bill in the past and did anything to meaningfully do that, then by all means, lock her up too.

This shouldn't be political. I don't care if there was a stupid slogan for that chanted by idiots, a broken clock can be right sometimes.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 15 hours ago

Like giving us the sitting POTUS as a candidate in the first place? Worshipping at the altar of Kissenger and Nunn? Color revos? Or any number of things during her tenure as Secretary of State?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 35 points 15 hours ago

Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

I was thinking more along the lines of the "helping cover up pedophilia and human trafficking" thing. That's a crime worthy of prison time.

[-] mcv@lemmy.zip 9 points 12 hours ago

She was voted out of power. And then we got Trump.

I'm no fan of Clinton, but rather a million times her than Trump. But the US clearly needs better candidates.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 12 hours ago

Certainly, she would have been a better president than Trump. But that's damning with extremely faint praise. A rotten turnip would have been a better president than Trump.

I've long tried to tell Americans that they need to spend their effort on the party primaries, that's the last chance for actual options to be considered. Once you get to the election itself the only thing left to evaluate is "which is the lesser evil?"

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

Everything is political, my friend. She should absolutely face consequences for her role in the heinous war crimes committed while she was secretary of state.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago

We've got literal piles of active Nazis and you want to go after Hillary for doing status quo shit.

Yeah, okay. Let me add her to the list. I think I've got a spot here at #187.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 5 points 13 hours ago

Don't worry, I want to go after the fascists. But I reject the assertion that making life worse for Americans is somehow more morally wrong than making life worse for Libyans. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you are willing to hand wave away atrocities as "status quo shit" then it makes sense that fascism is where things end up.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 3 points 5 hours ago

But making life worse for more groups is objectively more morally wrong than making life worse for fewer groups.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I wasn't talking about who is better or worse than who. Do you actually think nobody less bad than trump should face any kind of justice?

Edited: clarity

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 2 points 4 hours ago

You literally said worse twice, but you weren't talking about better or worse?

Huh?

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 hours ago

I mean I'm not talking about who is worse than who. For the record I do think Trump is far worse than either Clinton. But I absolutely reject that that somehow means it's fine to authorise death squads etc. or that it's somehow "not important enough" to remember all the horrible shit that happened under the Obama admin.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 3 hours ago

But I absolutely reject that that somehow means it's fine to authorise death squads etc. or that it's somehow "not important enough" to remember all the horrible shit that happened under the Obama admin.

Nobody said any of that.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

Yes they did lol, the first thing I replied to was

Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

Crimes against humanity are not "just political things".

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 3 hours ago

They never said said crimes against humanity are just political things.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago

The comment is still there, I can still read it, you could too if you wanted to

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 3 hours ago
[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Okay, you tell me what they are saying here then?

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You've completely lost the plot.

What @FaceDeer@fedia.io was saying is that Hilary Clinton shouldn't be exempt from being locked up if she's guilty of crimes.

I don't think they'd even disagree with you that she should be locked up if found guilty of crimes against humanity. They even cited an example of one.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You've completely lost the plot.

That's not a nice thing to say.

I don't see any way of reading those posts which I can interpret the way you said though. Which words are you specifically referencing when you say that

@FaceDeer@fedia.io was saying is that Hilary Clinton shouldn't be exempt from ...

?

I bring your attention again to the comment I replied to, which reads:

Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

(Emphasis mine)

This is in a direct response to @Maeve@kbin.earth 's comment listing several things which are firmly in the category of "atrocities".

So how exactly do you reach your interpretation?

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 1 hour ago

All of your questions can be answered by reading from the top of the thread down instead of being stuck partway through. Hence why I say you've lost the plot.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 44 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

No, that's wrong. Reading back further only shows that this person thinks locking up Hillary would be fine specifically and only if she covered up for Epstein, not any of that stuff in the other comment, which would be political.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 39 minutes ago

specifically and only if she covered up for Epstein

You're making things up.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 38 minutes ago
[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 34 minutes ago
[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 1 points 26 minutes ago

Oh, I see, you're just a troll. Well, you got me this time I guess.

[-] null@lemmy.nullspace.lol 1 points 19 minutes ago
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