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Wrong Groomers (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] Zwiebel@feddit.org 31 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Are their any male groomers in anime? Or would that be "to far" while women doing it is considered a light-hearted joke

(Not saying theres anything wrong with jokes like that)

[-] MyDarkestTimeline01@ani.social 38 points 1 month ago

Any harem anime that involves younger girls and an older guy. Even if he's not full on grooming they trot the joke of him being a groomer out.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago

How old is that guy, though? Most harem shows I've seen, the guy is about 17 (i.e. late school age) and doesn't usually treat girls younger than maybe 14 as viable love interests, but the women in the post are full-on adults.

[-] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I can't remember their names, but there are a few shows like that (mid 20s man + teen girl). They're more fetish-esque than anything though, unlike the above who are in regular shows/games more so

[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised nobody is bringing up Rising of the Shield hero here. Bro buys slave children which, while still belonging to him and having magic that forces them to obey his commands, develop feelings for him, presumably due to Stockholm syndrome.

[-] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago

There's a lot of this in the isekai genre. Main character 'saves' a slave (who becomes his slave instead) but it's okay because they want to be his slave because they love him!

I enjoy reading these dumb mangas but I always cringe a bit at how bad the human relationships tend to be.

[-] Unboxious@ani.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think Shield Hero popularized this trope though. I don't remember it being so prevalent 10 years ago, and I think Shield Hero was popular enough to make waves.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it’s okay because they want to be his slave

This is just the stupidest resolution to the situation, I don't get why so many Mangaka go with it. Just have the MC free them and they stick to him anyway because they are so thankful.

I also cringe, especially when they cry about not wanting to have the slave magic released. wtf

[-] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah and he explicitly has zero interest in them sexually or romantically.

It's fucked up, yes, because it was supposed to be, but that isn't grooming.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

Not a statement for or against your argument.

But grooming doesn't have to be sexual.

It is, frequently, but it's not a requirement.

For example, any of the trope recruiters that target children for military service in any of the bullshit nationalist wars (in anime of course, IRL military recruiters would never be so unethical)

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago

Absolutely true and I don't disagree. However, in the context of the meme and the discussion it seemed to be the primary insinuation behind calling him as groomer which I think is completely incorrect.

However of course he groomed her into fighting, that much was very explicit. Just not as a predator.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The "MC gets slaves and it's ok because different world" fad in anime is so annoying. Adds nothing and lazy as hell. I need the writers to at least be on par with my DM in motivating the formation of a party.

[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I mean there's a reason it's so common in isekai because isekai is so popular for the same reason: it enables easy, lazy writing that handwaves actual motivations while allowing anyone to self insert more easily. MC doesn't have to be a rizzler to pick up girls if he's picking them up at auction, and neither do you!

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah but isekai is boring only because it's lazy and worn out. Slaves is disturbing because it usually is justified by the enslaved somehow deciding they want it after the fact. Like, consent doesn't work like that. The MC is still a slaver.

It's so absurdly easy to let the hero be a hero, save someone, then they can follow the hero because they've lost their party or need help getting home or whatever. It's dirt cheap without the ick.

shit, be lazier than my dm, just have the character say they've got nothing better to do, why not follow a stranger? Save back story for later, and retcon why they had nothing better to do after the fact.

[-] Unboxious@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago

isekai is so popular for the same reason: it enables easy, lazy writing that handwaves actual motivations while allowing anyone to self insert more easily

It's not just because of all that. It also allows most isekai writers to skip 95% of the worldbuilding process! No wonder these things all feel the same.

[-] OrganicMustard@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

There are many: the dudes from Bunny Drop and Honey and Clover, which are the adoptive fathers of their love interest; the chiropractor from Ranma and the teacher from DDDD. Just some infamous ones.

[-] Feyd@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

Usagi drop is kind of a weird one because the final act with the romance was out of left field and is pretty much universally reviled. The entire rest of the story he was just being a dad. Also they didn't adapt that part to the anime.

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

oh yeah that one... was it:

right at the end the childhood friend same age romantic interest was told by a different girl that she was pregnant with his child or something along those lines. then he said something about taking responsibility which would imply that they fucked, so the lead girl felt betrayed and decides it's time to hook up with her adoptive father...

then after some pages implying that they are dating the most cursed page in manga of that era where the father complains about being pissed at his daughter's creepy old boyfriend followed by the yet nonexistent of course I know him, he's me meme

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well, in Persona 5 (third from the left), you play as a male high-school student, and your first boss fight is against a volleyball coach, who sexually harasses one of the female students. Meanwhile, your romance options include 1) a goth doctor, 2) an alcoholic reporter, 3) a fortune teller working in a red light district, and 4) your homeroom teacher whose secret side hustle is for a sexy maid service.

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 9 points 1 month ago

CLAMP School Detectives has this kindergarten girl go on a date with her male teacher.

I think CLAMP does the male groomer thing quite a bit, actually. Seishirou and Subaru from Tokyo Babylon, for example.

[-] Unboxious@ani.social 5 points 1 month ago

In the Cardcaptor Sakura manga (also CLAMP), an elementary school teacher gives an engagement ring to one of his students. Also, Sakura's dad was Sakura's mom's high school teacher when they met.

[-] rothaine@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 month ago

Mushoku Tensei

[-] Donkter@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I think the difference is that good/popular anime will still have women groomers where as most anime involving a male groomer is just fetish/wish fulfillment.

[-] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

redo of healer has bullet

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