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Wrong Groomers (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

I'm surprised nobody is bringing up Rising of the Shield hero here. Bro buys slave children which, while still belonging to him and having magic that forces them to obey his commands, develop feelings for him, presumably due to Stockholm syndrome.

[-] BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 month ago

There's a lot of this in the isekai genre. Main character 'saves' a slave (who becomes his slave instead) but it's okay because they want to be his slave because they love him!

I enjoy reading these dumb mangas but I always cringe a bit at how bad the human relationships tend to be.

[-] Unboxious@ani.social 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I think Shield Hero popularized this trope though. I don't remember it being so prevalent 10 years ago, and I think Shield Hero was popular enough to make waves.

[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

it’s okay because they want to be his slave

This is just the stupidest resolution to the situation, I don't get why so many Mangaka go with it. Just have the MC free them and they stick to him anyway because they are so thankful.

I also cringe, especially when they cry about not wanting to have the slave magic released. wtf

[-] Soulg@ani.social 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah and he explicitly has zero interest in them sexually or romantically.

It's fucked up, yes, because it was supposed to be, but that isn't grooming.

[-] Senal@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

Not a statement for or against your argument.

But grooming doesn't have to be sexual.

It is, frequently, but it's not a requirement.

For example, any of the trope recruiters that target children for military service in any of the bullshit nationalist wars (in anime of course, IRL military recruiters would never be so unethical)

[-] Soulg@ani.social 7 points 1 month ago

Absolutely true and I don't disagree. However, in the context of the meme and the discussion it seemed to be the primary insinuation behind calling him as groomer which I think is completely incorrect.

However of course he groomed her into fighting, that much was very explicit. Just not as a predator.

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The "MC gets slaves and it's ok because different world" fad in anime is so annoying. Adds nothing and lazy as hell. I need the writers to at least be on par with my DM in motivating the formation of a party.

[-] BreakerSwitch@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I mean there's a reason it's so common in isekai because isekai is so popular for the same reason: it enables easy, lazy writing that handwaves actual motivations while allowing anyone to self insert more easily. MC doesn't have to be a rizzler to pick up girls if he's picking them up at auction, and neither do you!

[-] untorquer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah but isekai is boring only because it's lazy and worn out. Slaves is disturbing because it usually is justified by the enslaved somehow deciding they want it after the fact. Like, consent doesn't work like that. The MC is still a slaver.

It's so absurdly easy to let the hero be a hero, save someone, then they can follow the hero because they've lost their party or need help getting home or whatever. It's dirt cheap without the ick.

shit, be lazier than my dm, just have the character say they've got nothing better to do, why not follow a stranger? Save back story for later, and retcon why they had nothing better to do after the fact.

[-] Unboxious@ani.social 3 points 1 month ago

isekai is so popular for the same reason: it enables easy, lazy writing that handwaves actual motivations while allowing anyone to self insert more easily

It's not just because of all that. It also allows most isekai writers to skip 95% of the worldbuilding process! No wonder these things all feel the same.

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