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Hot take: ending Chinese drop-shipping for cheap junk from Temu, etc. might actually be a good thing.
We've thrown out the baby, but atleast we got rid of that awful bathwater.
The thing is that not every idea they have is bad. No one wants an overflow of cheap junk from China, but the problem is obviously how they're going about it - basically halting trade in general rather than having a logical and pragmatic way of working; but then again their end goal isn't actually to improve USA or to help regular Americans in any way so it figures.
Hot take almost everything you own was partially or fully made in China or other Asian countries
Ending all parcels from 88 countries is not,
Yeah cheap temu crap is one thing. Localised products from other nations just won't happen on the individual level and will require a USA company to act as a middle man. In Australian news, we keep hearing about companies that are losing a large chunk of trade because of this. Most are small businesses with niche products; emu leather, kangaroo products, eucalyptus oil, etc. All things that are only made in Australia.
Even having a middle man won't help. The postal services are not engaging until there is a system in places and clarity.
Sure, mass shipping can work, but is cost prohibitive for all niche products, like you've mentioned unless they have a giant distribution deal.
They don't want to get the ultimate bill for the duties owed. They don't usually keep customer information, so it needs to be collected up front or not at all.
Millions of small retail or craft businesses now out of business: "haha so true bestie!"
Yeah, we've had a problem for a very long time. The tariffs should have been in place years to decades ago. We let US companies purchase from other countries and then resell in the US for easy profit. We allowed it to the point where U.S. manufacturing atrophied to the brink of non-existence.
We need a massive federal program to bring manufacturing back through small companies. Giant incentives to start manufacturing businesses. Create infrastructure to provide raw materials at cost to these companies by taxing the piss out big companies.
Once you can source plastic and metal goods in the US again, then start running tariffs, and only run it on goods that we can affordably manufacture here.
None of these manufacturing companies need to have yacht owners running them. Engineer it to keep it small. Force them to put the profits back into the people. Hell, maybe force them to be employee owned to get the grant.
If I can ask, have you spent any time in the Rust Belt? Because I grew up there, and I can tell you that Americans don't actually want plastics manufacturing in their backyard, nor will they appreciate the lung cancer and COPD rates skyrocketing because some dipshit has misplaced nostalgia for a time you most likely didn't even live through.
For a time, I was quite close to manufacturing workforce development in the US. The dirty little secret that nobody who kvetches about American manufacturing will ever acknowledge out loud is that we have plenty of manufacturing in the US, but manufacturers have the plants in places where people cannot affordably travel, nor do natural American workers seem to want to actually do factory work.
They all say they do, by I can tell you from looking at actual jobs data that only 1/10 American workers who start at a factory job actually remain there longer than a month. To fix any of this, we all need to first acknowledge that maybe manufacturing doesn't exist as much because it's a shitty job with low pay, low security, and carries a high risk of on-the-job injury. None of y'all are gonna be lining up to be the guy who agitates the molten steel while it's being transported from the forge to the smelter. Do you know how many people were just encased in molten steel? Do you know how often we just sorta moved on without even compensating the family? Enough so that the American labor union practically began in Pittsburgh.
People yearn for the time when a man could work 40 hours a week and afford to support an entire family, and buy a home, and buy some nice appliances, while still getting vacation time.
That time was factory work in the 50s. But it wasn't the factory work they want, it's the wages. They don't realize that factory work now is the conditions you mentioned plus less wages than McDonald's.
Sounds like you wish for a planned economy, like China has it.
But why are you guys voting for fascists, liberals and not communists if you want communism (profits going to the people), and a planned economy?
You have no right to claim you know who I voted for.
To be fair in the US you have 2 realistic options and OPs description applies to both... unfortunately the case in a few places right now.
not everyone buys from temu, some chinese products for asian business owners need the other stuff especially around asian related foods ingredients.