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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago

I’m down for a universal basic income, but sorry folks doing chores is not “unpaid labor”

[-] dandelion 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

yet when you do it for someone else it's paid, it's arbitrary that women's work has been socialized as not deserving a wage, a retirement plan, or even basic respect - yet producing a future worker and socializing them, which is the source of all capital, is entirely exploited and taken without compensation of any kind

this is the point of the Wages for Housework movement

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

After reading the post I’m still not convinced. I do think folks who have jobs as waiters, waitresses, house keepers, nanny’s, service workers in general both men and women so as not to be sexist, also paid time paternity and maternity leave for all jobs, I can support a lot of these things, all of these people, and also anyone who works deserves a living wage.

Edited for double negatives lol but hopefully meaning is clear

I just disagree that calling our chores unpaid labor makes any sense if we are trying to actually make it happen…with legislation. I live in the USA and 🎤 🎙️ 🎼 🎶 I’m proud to be an American because basic income works for me, and is proven to work. 🎵 🎶 🎶 🎵 🎶 🎶

Again, I would not vote against it no matter what it is was or will be called.

Also, I did not downvote you by the way I ain’t like that

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago

I support a universal basic income, everyone deserves to have their basic needs met at a minimum, we don’t live in a society where there is a shortage of anything, at least in developed countries….

I will read your post tomorrow… thanks

I don’t think people should be paid for taking care of their families or doing their chores, if you are doing someone else’s chores and that is your job then sure…. But like I said I do think we should have basic income etc….

I wouldn’t vote against a referendum that suggested we pay single mothers or fathers or other folks unable to work for whatever reason though, so it could just be semantics and games of words to describe the same thing… not sure

In the United States if I was a single father I would much rather be homeless and able to spend time with my kid than to work and have to be away from them… but I’m also a dirty hippy who knows that life is possible

[-] KAtieTot 16 points 4 days ago

How else would it be framed, if she's expected to do the lion's share of work in the relationship, without any compensation?

[-] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

And often being expected to, without a word of gratitude in return

[-] Walk_blesseD@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

Oh shit, better start dine-n-dashing at eateries (food preparation and dishes are chores and therefore aren't labour i guess)

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

As a freegan I hear you but there is so much waste you don’t actually need to steal, I have had anarchist friends though… the different flavors of caviar are pretty good not gonna lie

But, surely you see the difference between eating at a restaurant and eating at home. Seems like a bad faith argument.

I do support universal basic income and would not vote against legislation that phrased it as paying folks for so called unpaid labor, I just don’t think the wording is correct… much like defund the police is phrased incorrectly, I support defunding the police but I don’t think it’s a good way to phrase it. Police need more resources and social workers on their teams and more training, not more military gear, but calling it defunding the police just automatically gets all the republicans and half the democrats against it because of how it sounds…. Same as this… doing your laundry and doing your dishes is not something you should get paid for unless you are getting an allowance from your parents, even then it’s iffy

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