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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

It’s also important to remember these models are trained by sampling

IMO, training software on the corpus of human art without payment or attribution is not good for society and art in general, but, humans who create non-abstract are trained and honestly create in a strikingly similar way. The person hired to make an art piece of Catherine the Great doesn't disclose that he looked at Alexander Roslin's painting of her and is greatly copying the look and feel for the face or the Google search they used to find options for 1700's royal clothing. The big difference in process between AI and an artist with reference art is the removal of the human element, and that's super important.

But instead, we focus on how it was trained, when we train much the same way, or we call it all slop regardless of the actual quality, instead of calling out the real problem, the one problem that we can do something about, it's taking a living away from humans.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 4 days ago

Slop machines have more in common with tracing than with learning.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv-5mZ_9CPY

You can hate the output, you can hate copying the IP, you can hate the people involved, but the process is nothing like tracing. It's closer to black fucking magic :)

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It's not magic.

You're in a cult.

[-] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

It’s not magic.

It's closer to black magic than tracing. It's really closer to sculpting. You take a machine, show it a few million pictures of dogs to teach it what dogs look like, then hand it a big block of white noise and ask it to show you a dog. It then carves away all the parts it doesn't think look like dog, repeats until the result doesn't change much and shows you the dog it essentially hallucinated out of the noise.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 days ago

funny, I didn't feel like a kettle this morning.

anyway have a good one

[-] apostrofail@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

for 1700s* royal clothing

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