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[-] icelimit@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

I don't understand why they are publicizing this. Wouldn't it be easier to 'slip by' under cover of night or whatever smuggler-esque strategies there are?

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 109 points 1 week ago

The point isn't to get supplies to Gaza, it's to put eyeballs on the fact that Israel is preventing supplies from getting into Gaza.

[-] icelimit@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

So alleviating their suffering isn't the objective, rather to point out that they are suffering?

[-] bingrazer@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago

I think it’s more that one delivery is a drop in the bucket while achieving a constant stream of deliveries (e.g. the public puts enough pressure on their respective governments) could meaningfully address the problem

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

The objective is to draw attention to the famine that Israel is causing by publicising how Israel blocks the entry of aid with a very tangible example.

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago

They're going to get stopped either way. A flotilla of 27 civilian ships isn't sneaking past one of the most advanced, heavily armed navies in the world, no matter how "sneaky" they try to be.

At least this way they're on record for stopping the delivery.

[-] cuerdo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

if they try to sneak for sure they are getting killed

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

They just don't expect to be allowed through. If they are, great! Then they'd do this again with an even bigger flotilla, and keep helping people as long as they're allowed to.

However, what they expect to happen is that they'll be stopped. So they're making sure they're positioned to take full advantage of that, too.

[-] icelimit@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I understand it better now, clearly there are others that didn't like my question. I guess there are 'stupid' questions to ask.

But regardless, the take for me is that they are taking more a 'martyrdom' sort of approach, which I completely respect.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 9 points 1 week ago

To point out its purposeful starvation. Israel claims they don’t have to,provide aid, it’s a war. This points out the hypocrisy that Israel are preventing peaceful aid. Israel are using hunger and famine as a weapon of war, to eliminate a people. Aka genocide and war crimes,

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Everybody know that israel claims are BS. All leaders now that the occupying force has the obligation to provide necessities to the occupied

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 2 points 1 week ago

Yer they still receive support and they still block aid. This is to make it clear to those that don't know, or that think Israel is within its rights to do so.

[-] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 3 points 1 week ago
[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

So alleviating their suffering isn't the objective

I'm surprised a .ml account is saying this.

Still, I'm curious if they have a real distribution plan should they make it through. I don't imaging desperate people are going to make an orderly line, nor that the IDF will just watch it happen.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

While some people defend the Russian invasion of Ukraine in ML, I have never seen comments as disturbing as those on .world that defend Israel unconditionally and blame Hamas for the genocide. Some even go so far as to claim that Palestinians do not exist, and that the entire land belongs to Jews because God supposedly gave it to them, or based on other stupid ancestral arguments.

[-] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago

Good ole nakba denial

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Im on Lemmy a fair amount, but I've not seen that on .world. Still wouldn't surprise me given its one of the biggest instance.

[-] icelimit@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

I've seen this kind of stereotyping around - what's this about different attributes associated with different Lemmy domains? I just made a random one.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Tankie instance, but more relevant one that has a strong dislike of pragmatism when discussing leftist issues.

[-] icelimit@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a tankie instance?? I just saw that the description was lemmy.ml, I took it as to mean the most 'generic' one. (Given that it is 'lemmy') Where was this extra description?

Also I thought everyone was free to just choose whichever and there was no difference in the kind of accessibility or privilege to choosing one over another?

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

The .ml stands for Marxist Leninist. Not really, but that's how they use it. It is a generic instance, but it does have that reputation.

I love their passion for issues, but their stubborn unpractical approach to solutions is frustrating.

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it's a illegal blockage, if they tried to do it in secret it would 100% fail, it's a humanitarian aid flotilla, not a military stealth ship.

if anything the more public eyes on this the better.

[-] remon@ani.social 15 points 1 week ago

Because it is a publicity stunt.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Publicity stunt" is just a pejorative description of activism, in this case.

[-] remon@ani.social 4 points 1 week ago

If that's how you want to interpret it, sure.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

Feel free to put forward an alternative view

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[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

No, it won't be easier. Israel has all the tools to intercept them

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

because they dont want to get there they want the headlines when they are turned away

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

That’s not true necessarily. Of course they are highlighting the cruelty of the blockade, but I’m sure they’d be very happy to get in and see what’s happening—as well as distribute some food

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

yet they wont and they know that they wont. why not deliver food to the Ukrainian front? because they might actually get there.

[-] diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because people dying from starvation in Gaza?? What kind of logic is this!?

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

yet they send a flotilla of food they will be eating from into a blockade that will just take the food and send it on anyways. this is twitter theatre.

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

What in the world kind of thinking is this? Yeah, there’s a war going on and Russia is targeting civilian centers and are clearly the invading aggressor, but that is not on the same level as the full blown genocide happening in Gaza/West Bank. The fact that they could easily get into Ukraine and deliver food…means they don’t have to. What.

There is an actual famine happening in Gaza. Starvation is being used as a weapon of war and attrition against the entire civilian population. There are only upsides to them trying this: either aid gets through and some people survive a little longer, or it doesn’t, and it proves to the entire world—that happens to be sitting on their hands over the genocide—that this is real and needs way more attention and pressure. What don’t you understand about that?

[-] FarmTaco@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

news flash: they wont be getting into Gaza at all. so they could help people, but choose not to. this is theatre.

[-] TheMinister@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

It’s attempting to break an illegal and genocidal blockade of necessary survival items. The fact that the blockade exists means they should respect it?

Look what they’ve already done: started thousands of conversations about it. It’s already mountains more than you or I have ever done to help the people of Gaza. Your opinion is ridiculous. But it also shows how necessary these actions are.

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago

Because terrorism is the point

[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 13 points 1 week ago

"Terrorism is when you attempt to deliver food to starving children."

[-] Dhar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 week ago

So many zionists here

[-] prole 12 points 1 week ago

This is terrorism? Explain.

[-] WraithGear@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

yes i would like to know how this is terrorism as well

[-] Maldreamer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Please enlighten us how this is terrorism?

[-] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago
[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 week ago

This is a good thing, don't get me wrong, but reading this is exhausting. Framing it as Israel "failing to prevent a humanitarian disaster" rather than actively committing genocide is such weasely bullshit.

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