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[-] Hayduke@lemmy.world 242 points 2 months ago

I have to hand it to them, they are really good at finding new, innovative ways to make the platform worse.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 24 points 2 months ago

If you pay, the platform remains great. I get a discounted YouTube premium membership through my mobile phone company. I think YouTube is great, I never see ads, lots of features.

Just to offer an alternative view.

[-] aeternum 77 points 2 months ago

I pay nothing for YouTube and don't get ads. YMMV

[-] int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago
[-] aeternum 9 points 2 months ago
[-] Retro_unlimited@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

I get no ads, and I’m not logged in for them to track me and sell my data.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago

Wow, shilling for YouTube premium and anti-net-neutrality (the "discount through your phone company" part) in one comment.

[-] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

I don’t think that has anything to do with net neutrality

[-] grue@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not allowing ISPs to pick and choose winners among web services is absolutely what Net Neutrality is about. Bundling or discounting subscriptions isn't technically the same thing as zero-rating, but the end result of making a particular ISP-preferred service cheaper than alternatives is the same.

[-] FishFace@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

You're just trying to piggyback on a vaguely-related concept that your audience already likely hates. Call things what they are, not what would be convenient to you if they were.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago

Is recommending a product that you’re satisfied with “shilling”?

Is there a product in this world that you think is worth the price? Does that make you a shill?

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 8 points 2 months ago

I get the same with firefox and an ad blocker for free

[-] overload@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

Do you have a means of removing sponsors on the mobile app though? Revanced has sponsorblock and adblock in the app.

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

You mean removing sponsor led segments inside a video? Sort of. The jump ahead feature, which I think is a premium feature, allows you to jump in the video based on where everywhere else is jumping in the video. So when a sponsored segment starts and you skip forward 30s (double tap on mobile, ‘k’ on PC) you are offered to jump ahead. You click that and you get to the end of the sponsored segment.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Sponsorblock works perfectly fine on Firefox Mobile

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm OK with your opinion and I appreciate hearing an alternate view to offset the echo chamber effect.

But for a lot of us, or at least me, its far deeper than just cost and ads.

It's the fact that steps keep being taken to make the platform worse. They don't want the platform usable unless you pay, and in this case they're even taking a stab at the people who pay...you don't pay enough in their mind.

If they had balls, they would just make it a closed platform. Pay to access, and restrict that per account IP. But they'd rather gaslight everybody and slowly turn up he heat so the frogs don't jump out of the pot. This way they maximize their profits for longer. Point of all of that is, they don't care about he platform or service at all.

For me, its not even about that. Their algorithm was so jacked up I was sick of being fed videos I didn't want to see over and over, and videos I've already watched over and over. That's why they added the subscription bell...because you would subscribe to things you wanted to watch and they never showed it to you. It wasn't "you" tube it was "their" tube.

I bailed on them years ago. I still watch some content on there because there really isn't a viable alternative. I use a scraper that gives me a feed of just what I want and without ads. I watch what I like and move on with my day. I'm back in control of my video viewing.

[-] techt@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Weird number of downvotes here -- I thought they were meant for low-effort or non contributive comments, not an "I disagree" button. This person is giving a unique perspective as a subscriber (in this thread, anyway) and should be met with curiosity, I think. It is helpful to know that there are people who enjoy paying for it, so thanks for giving your opinion here.

I disagree because they have a dominant position for reasons other than having a good product -- they squash competition trying to make the space better while themselves actively making it worse. Subscribing means supporting that style of inhibiting innovation, not to mention the other user-hostile practices they embrace (extend, extinguish). They are an ad company and obligated to make a profit, I get that, but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices. If your product is good, it shouldn't need to be artificially propped up.

[-] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

but I refuse to abide this style of using investor money to operate at a loss for years while deceptively capturing the market before raising prices.

Indeed, no company should be praised or rewarded for emulating the moves that made companies like Walmart and Amazon big.

This hellscape would be slightly more tolerable if there was ample competition in every space. Companies need to be motivated to make their profit in ways that please the consumer, but also in ways that are increasingly more ethical.

But truly, as they say, there is no ethical consumption. Modern slavery and third-world exploitation...even literal child slavery are rampant in our supply chains and offshore manufacturing.

Even Google indirectly uses child slavery. The court threw the case raised against them (and other giants) out last year because these companies simply purchase "unspecified amounts" of cobalt through "global supply chains" - never mind how it came to be on the global supply chain to begin with and how much obscene profit these companies make off these resources.

[-] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Do you pay them or did they pay you?

[-] etchinghillside@reddthat.com 23 points 2 months ago

Deactivated Premium recently. I used their music app when driving – expecting some ads now - nope, it just doesn’t allow running in the background anymore.

Seems like such a hostile thing - I’d like to think running ads would be a positive net income for them. (Now that I think of it - maybe they don’t have it built out into their music service.)

[-] sucius@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago
[-] ChanchoManco@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 months ago

This you can even use YouTube Music with it.

[-] Broken@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Makes me long for the days of google music. It just worked. Streamed stuff and even allowed you to stream your own library that you had stored in drive. I would use that in the car. Then they ditched it for YouTube music, which was a worse experience and lacked the features.

[-] lIlIllIlIIIllIlIlII@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 months ago

That old days when Google was cool and not evil.

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