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such a funny time for this discourse again ☕

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[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So far, what democrats propose aren't really sensible.

They are giving authority to police to dictate who can or cannot obtain a gun permit.

Like wtf, fuck the police, I don't trust them with shit.

Give that power to like, idk, some sort of jury and maybe we'll talk about gun control. But I ain't trusting cops with the discretion to hand out gun permits. They'll give it to a white young-adult that's racist as fuck and threatened people, but will simultaneously refuse to give a permit to a black store owner seeking for a gun to defend against a potential white mob trying to attack his store.

Before 2022, most Democratic jurisdictions operate under "May-Issue" laws, meaning, cops had broad discretion on whether to issue a permit or not, but then the supreme court, ironically its the 6 fascist-alligned judges, struck it down and the whole US is now under "Shall-Issue" laws, which means, cops cannot deny a permit if the background check comes clean, so no more denying guns to non-whites and using "he looks suspicious" as a reason.

Background checks? Yea fine.

Manatory gun safety training? Sure.

Permits? Ummm only if its a neutral nonpolitical jury/citizen's commission or something like that. Cuz otherwise nope, can't trust cops with the discretion.

Gun Registry? Don't give it to the government. An independent citizen's commission should maintain the registry, only accessible to investigators if there's probable cause and a warrant should be required.

[-] Alaik@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

100%. We already know plenty of cops are definitely the, "just following orders" types of cowards for the defenseless, and they call paramedics for anything so i dont have to deal with it for everything else type.

I'll be damned if im okay with them deciding.

For those DMing me what I meant: I know first hand how domestic abusers and other criminals can get off because the cops dont want to do the paperwork and because theyre drunk or strung out, they call paramedics because, "Altered mental status is a medical issue."

A disadvantaged person asserting their rights? They'll just beat the fuck out of them or shoot em.

[-] Katana314@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

The issue probably comes with determining which major organizations are knowledgable about guns…and then which of those organizations you’d trust.

If there are regulations, unfortunately someone has to administer them. Juries make decisions regarding cases, but cases only arise through police action; and court systems are already overloaded without handling firearm permits for individuals.

Every Democrat proposed gun control law always carves out exceptions for cops, even their personal firearms. That's not gun control it's class warfare.

[-] Seefoo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago
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