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pulmonologists hate vapes
Data? No, because there is none. And I have read every.single.study. They are all fucked in some way or another whether it's methodology or the stats or the sample size/composition. Not a single real in vivo study. None. There is exactly one researcher in Greece doing decent work, and that's it. I took a career change from my previous and now present career and worked in pharma and biotech research.
Former smoker, current vaper. I know inhaling anything other than clean air isn't good for me, and I know nicotine addiction isn't good. I plan on quitting, and I'm making decent progress to that point.
But it bugs the shit out of me when people try to act like it's worse than cigarettes. It's not. Shitty Chinese vapes marketed to kids that we don't know the ingredients of? Sure, ban em. Black market vapes made in some dudes garage with oil? Absolutely track em down and end that man's whole career.
But properly made, regulated vape juice in a rebuildable tank? Leave me the fuck alone. Please. Please do not take the thing that has helped millions of people quit smoking!
Can you link me any decent articles to help the next time someone says some dumb reactionary shit?
Yeah alas the subreddit for it did a lot of the heavy lifting for me - they took apart every study (I helped) and had some good sidebar (or was it pinned, been so long I cannot remember) info to counter the "dumb reactionary shit." I am pretty sure the sub got baninated, but I haven't been back to reddit since I rage quit after the API debacle.
When I first started vaping in 2011 (after smoking two packs a day for decades), there were a lot of solid, research-based web boards, but I think social media killed them, as it did so much.
That's a real shame about the web boards. I miss real forums :(
Can we do this for all the other drugs as well?
Are you a lung doctor or are you someone who vapes and wants to be able to maintain the illusion that it isn't harmful?
I am someone who used to do medical research for a lot of money. I've interviewed chairs of FDA committees, trial designers, and active trial leads on phase III (mostly) research in pharma and biologics. I still have access to PupMed via my old friends.