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Brisket and gravy makes sense as a meal, but wtf is biscuits and gravy?
I'm British and there's no end of meals that I would have gravy with, but biscuits isn't one of them.
I can tell it's a cultural/language thing because North Americans call biscuits cookies, but I don't know what they mean by biscuits here.
https://feastgloriousfeast.com/breakfast-biscuits/
Ah OK, so biscuit means savoury scones.
Every time I have this conversation with Americans they insist that it's nothing like scones but then they describe something suspiciously sconelike
It’s a buttery scone with the layered texture of a croissant that’s had a weight pressed down on it.
This is the best description
No. Absolutely not. Unlike scones, biscuits have a nice texture.
A good scone is kinda crunchy outside with a nice soft inside. They change texture pretty quickly though.
I'm doing something wrong then. Mine come out more arid than desert sand.
sconophobia is deeply ingrained in the american south
The scones available in the American South suck. They suck when I have made them myself. I've tried 3 different recipes. I can make some buttermilk biscuits though, and they are glorious. So either scones suck, like in general, or they don't bake right in our climate.
I was raised by Southern women and you know what? This is accurate. The Southern style biscuit is basically an American scone. I’d never considered this before, but it is correct.
it's not the same gravy either. it's made from uncased sausage, the grease from the sausage, flour, and milk. both are very simple to make at home, give it a try!
edit: pics to clarify "sausage" just in case
it's usually pressed into patties as pictured but for gravy you just brown it like ground beef
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzdbFnv4yWQ
No one in the US eats brisket with gravy. It would typically be a tomato based bbq sauce or nothing.
They're delicious. A biscuit is a small, palm sized baked goods made with flour and fat. They're fluffy, and you pull them in half, put some butter on them, and eat them.
Gravy is a speckled chicken gravy, a white gravy sometimes with sausage in it, and it goes well with the biscuits
In addition to the biscuit recipe Tony replied with, the gravy in question is normally a white gravy made from "breakfast sausage" (ground pork with spices, particularly sage) and black pepper. The dish is salty, savory, and quite filling. Mostly served for breakfast with eggs and/or hashbrowns.
So gravy here means a sausage meat white sauce. Thanks for the clarification.
When Americans cannot fathom that the same word has different regional meanings.
Given their knowledge of the "one true English", I wonder how they'd feel about my sharing a fag with a hooker at the park this past Saturday.
"Gravy" here means "gravy". You may treat brown gravy as the default but the drippings+thickener+liquid idea is the same.
No no no, not to me here on this side of the pond! To me, this feels like a conversation like this:
"So rifle here means pistol."
"Rifle means rifle. You may treat long rifles with a stock as the default, but the barrel + trigger + high velocity projectile idea is the same."
I don't think you should get to be particular, considering how you treat the word "pudding".
I'm talking through this thing that sounded super weird to me (Who puts brown gravy on small hard cookies?! How on earth is that a dish on a cooking competition?! Why do they think that the guy putting the brown gravy on meat instead was the crazy one?!), and I'm understanding more, partly with your help (thank you), but every time I express something in British English that I understand you tell me I'm wrong, which is less fun.
It's a different dialect dude, allow me my own usage and terminology.
"It's crazy how Brits call anything in a bowl after main course a pudding! Cake? Pudding. Yoghurt? Pudding. Chocolate mousse? Pudding. If they have a spoon in their hand, they're probably gonna call it pudding, pudding or not!" - better. Now we're both having fun.
There's dialect and then there's "no, that's not what that word means." I'm not telling you it's wrong to call several different things pudding, I'm pointing out that it's kinda weird not to just extend that acceptance to gravy when someone describes something from their culture.
You want your feelings hurt look up Yorkshire Pudding.
I don't have to look it up. I have Yorkshire puddings most Sundays!
you mean gasp people from other cultures use language differently than the one you happen to be part of? and the language you speak has (shocker) different dialects? HOW DARE THEY.
e: just realized i didn't understand the conversation. leaving it for being tangential relevance.
So this breakfast "gravy" is made with drippings from a roast? What meat is roasted for biscuits and gravy?
The fat renders out of the sausage. It's usually made in a single large pan.