258
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] AndrewZabar@lemmy.world 37 points 2 days ago

If the day comes where it’s impossible to at the very least, clean off spyware stuff you don’t want, or install custom ROMs if necessary, then I’ll stick to older units that have the ability still. And if that ever becomes impossible, then stop using a smartphone.

And all the arguments in the world about how everything requires a smartphone - I don’t care about. That cannot be literally required, at least not for anything important because it’s not possible to assume/ensure that every person has one and that it is fully operational etc.

If this creates a nuisance for providers of various services, so be it - in fact, all the better because they can potentially be a source of pressure to maintain the availability of customizable devices. But that’s a very very miniscule likelihood; more likely is that they say well, too bad, if you don’t have a smartphone then this hospital can’t treat you. There may come a point where it literally will be impossible to functionally integrate in society without being spied upon 24/7. And in America at least, this will be welcomed with open arms because - well, you know: sheep.

But even then, there will develop a bigger and bigger fringe subculture of off-the-grid individuals who still value the concept of privacy.

So - like every sci-fi dystopia depicted in film and literature throughout history. Well, anyone who complains won’t be able to claim they weren’t warned a million times literally.

[-] SpikesOtherDog@ani.social 12 points 2 days ago

Whoa, papers please. Not the physical ones, I need you to hand over your smart phone and we will scan your access.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago

Increasingly more services are moving away from SMS 2FA for security reasons. App based authentication tokens are the more secure wYhy to process multifactor authentication. You would need at the very least, a smart device capable of installing an authenticator so you can continue to use banks and sign into email providers that require it (most business emails). There are ways to do this without a smart phone but it will only make your life more complex.

[-] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

That cannot be literally required, at least not for anything important because it’s not possible to assume/ensure that every person has one and that it is fully operational etc

哈哈哈. You can go months in China without seeing a RMB, like 90% of businesses only accept Alipay, Wechat, and Unionpay.

The level of enshittification of wechat and alipay is suprisingly low for now, but most Chinese phones are getting harder to flash a custom rom on, presumably to stop resellers from flashing global firmware and reselling in more expensive countries.

[-] Strawberry 4 points 2 days ago

Nah, these time based 2fa codes can be stored on an extremely basic device that doesn't need an internet connection. It would just need a clock set roughly accurately

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

And they can be synced by atomic clock signals (whoever emits them in my area)

[-] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 1 points 2 days ago

For banking there still are these tan generator devices that use optical sensors that read a flashing image that is displayed on the screen of your online banking software. This doesn't seem to go anywhere.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago

Who in their right mind would prefer sms 2FA???
At least prefer hardware passkeys or something but not sms...

this post was submitted on 25 Aug 2025
258 points (100.0% liked)

Android

31615 readers
304 users here now

DROID DOES

Welcome to the droidymcdroidface-iest, Lemmyest (Lemmiest), test, bestest, phoniest, pluckiest, snarkiest, and spiciest Android community on Lemmy (Do not respond)! Here you can participate in amazing discussions and events relating to all things Android.

The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules


1. All posts must be relevant to Android devices/operating system.


2. Posts cannot be illegal or NSFW material.


3. No spam, self promotion, or upvote farming. Sources engaging in these behavior will be added to the Blacklist.


4. Non-whitelisted bots will be banned.


5. Engage respectfully: Harassment, flamebaiting, bad faith engagement, or agenda posting will result in your posts being removed. Excessive violations will result in temporary or permanent ban, depending on severity.


6. Memes are not allowed to be posts, but are allowed in the comments.


7. Posts from clickbait sources are heavily discouraged. Please de-clickbait titles if it needs to be submitted.


8. Submission statements of any length composed of your own thoughts inside the post text field are mandatory for any microblog posts, and are optional but recommended for article/image/video posts.


Community Resources:


We are Android girls*,

In our Lemmy.world.

The back is plastic,

It's fantastic.

*Well, not just girls: people of all gender identities are welcomed here.


Our Partner Communities:

!android@lemmy.ml


founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS