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[-] mienshao@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Bye bye, democratic party! I’d rather die than willingly vote for people who dehumanize my trans brother, sisters, and themsters.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Looks like you're in need of a reality check.

For the foreseeable future, and likely for the remainder of your life, you will have one of two parties in control of the American federal government. Democrats or Republicans. No 3rd party is even remotely viable. Not even close. And no 3rd party is even trying to be.

Now, less than a year ago America found out what happens if you don't vote or vote 3rd party. The answer is fascism. Fascism happens. Because the fascists are crossing their fingers and hoping you stay home or blow your vote on a 3rd party.

So you can take these facts and use them to make intelligent decisions in the future, or you can keep posting emotional, unhelpful comments like the one you just posted. I'm crossing my fingers you make the intelligent decision.

[-] KAtieTot 6 points 1 day ago

Guys there's no solution but to vote DNC. Vote blue no matter who. It doesn't matter if they cheat in the primaries or run a cop for president or cherry pick LGBT rights or refuse to make any concessions to the left at all, the only option is the one the democratic establishment runs. You can't run for office or win office, you don't have the choice to run third party, you can't do anything but keep playing their game.

If the DNC wants to win an election, Mamdani is showing them exactly how to do it. It's too late to make the "but fascism will happen" fascism is already happening and the DNC is spineless, cowardly, and performatively powerless. The threat doesn't work any more.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I mean it's a pretty simple question.

Would you rather have Dems in power right now or Republicans? There is no other option that's going to happen in reality.

Reminder that none of this insane crazy bullshit was happening before January.

[-] KAtieTot 2 points 19 hours ago

Not really my fault the DNC couldn't run a candidate that could beat DJT.

Why not? Keep telling yourself that and it's true.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 3 points 2 days ago

So you won't vote? Or vote third party?

[-] megopie 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If people say “yes I’ll still vote for them if they run an openly homophobic person.” Then the party has no reason not to.

Regardless of what people’s actual decisions is on voting day; It is imperative to say one wouldn’t vote for them over these issues. It needs to be made clear that “not being as bad” is a losing strategy.

Insisting that people must commit to voting for them, regardless of their platform, and calling them an idiot if they say no, is basically giving the party tacit support to drop protecting minorities from their platform.

Do you give the democrats tacit support to do that?

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

A significant aspect of being an adult is damage control.

This all boils down to a very simple question.

Would you rather have Democrats in control or Republicans?

There is no third option, no matter how hard people fantasize about it. There is no reality where we all hold hands and make a 3rd party viable out of nowhere. No 3rd party is even trying to be viable. In 2024 the 3rd party candidate with the most votes got a whopping half of a single percent of the total votes cast. That is rock solid proof that no 3rd party is even remotely viable.

So.

Democrats or Republicans?

Because from my point of view, out of those options, the answer is unbelievably obvious.

[-] megopie 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Critasism must be leveled at both, and the only criticism that means anything to a party that matters is “I will not vote for them” regardless of the truthfulness of that statement. The only influence we have over the government is who we vote for.

To say you would vote for one party no matter what means you have no influence over their platform and tacitly accept everything they do, meaning you have basically given up any influence over the government in the same way as if you never voted at all. Demanding that others do that is insisting that people not use the one influence they have over the government.

[-] dandelion 2 points 1 day ago

It's likely a targeted LGBTQ+ campaign to withdraw votes and support for Democrats would result from an openly anti-gay, anti-trans candidate, yes. This is mostly to throw our weight around and convince them that they need our support if they want to win elections.

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