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Dehumanizing one's enemies is what Nazis do.
Cops are taking people to concentration camps which will certainly become death camps or slavery in time
I agree that they're bad people. I do not agree that they aren't people.
Oh fuck off. People are pissed off and rightly so, don’t impose your bloated sense of morality on them and try to villainize the people being put under the boot of fascists for viewing those fascists as inhuman monsters when they are acting like inhuman monsters. Asking people to humanize victims is fine, but demanding that people humanize those that terrorize them is just moral masturbation. Shut the hell up.
No.
My sense of morality is the reason I'm not a Nazi and don't act like a Nazi.
You know what, you're right. We should just shrug, throw our hands up, and declare "guess they're just evil subhuman scum!" instead of looking at the problem objectively and dealing with the societal issues that lead human beings into these kinds of ideologies. I bet that'll work this time.
Bullshit. They are human beings. They have some really bad beliefs and it's ok to dislike them. You're already justified. You don't need the hyperbolus bullshit. You don't need to talk exactly like they do to make your point.
Fuck fascists. They are subhuman scum because they are actively choosing to be subhuman scum. They forfeit their right to be regarded as a person and became part of a system of hate. It’s not an innate trait of who they are, and I’m not giving them the benefit of empathy when they are making the choice of viewing real people as targets out of pure hatred of them being a different skin color or speaking a different language or being born on a different piece of land. Nazis and fascists gave up their humanity by choice, not by nature. You’re begging sympathy for the devil to appease your ego to feel holier than thou. Fuck your soap box.
Yep. Which is why they need to be dehumanized. There is a difference when it's targeting one specific group because of their murderous hatred. They need to be stopped.
You can stop them without using their rhetoric.
History has shown us that there is only one way to stop them. I guess people like you need to learn the hard way again, rather than learn from history.
How exactly is saying "they're not human" on the internet going to stop them?
Read a history book, then maybe you'll understand what I was referring to.
I've read a few, but none of them said that we defeated Hitler by calling him subhuman on the internet.
Cool straw man.
again with this? tolerating the intolerant is not possible. in addition, I did not dehumanize them. they do it to themselves.
why do you support nazis?
It's not about tolerating the intolerant, it's about not using their same thought process lest you fall prey to the same kinds of propaganda. Besides, removing their humanity absolves them of their sin. This isn't like a house cat killing birds on instinct, these people choose to do this. And they should be treated accordingly.
Broke: Nazis aren't human
Woke: The worst monsters to be born on this planet are all human, and they all seem to really like swastikas
It's not even close to the same thought process though. You have to know that, right?
Also, I take issue with the entire concept of "sin," so that argument holds no water for me. I mean, what a meaningless "argument". How does it absolve them of anything??
It absolutely is. It's a thought process people use to make their actions easier to justify to their own sense of morality and empathy. Militaries drill that same thought process into soldiers for the same reason. It's much easier to shoot something than it is to shoot somebody, so your enemy must be less than human to make pulling the trigger easier. So you turn a group of people into the Other. And the more you do it, the easier it gets, and all it takes is somebody convincing you that the wrong group deserves the same treatment.
"My enemy isn't human. My enemy is less than human. Since the dawning of Mankind, this has been the battlecry."
I don't care one way or another about the theology around the word "sin," but it's the perfect word to describe their actions. By reducing them to subhuman, you make it easy to remove their free will in the equation - it becomes the "just following orders" excuse - and it's incredibly important to remember that they chose to do this. Nobody is born hateful, hatred is learned. They made the conscious choice to be hateful and act this way, and they should be held accountable for that choice.
People have a hard time accepting that the worst people this planet has ever seen are as human as you and me, but to deny it is to turn a blind eye to the fact that the people in that video could be our neighbors, friends, or family. Because we know them, and they're good people, so they'd never do something like that, right?
I know full well that they are human, and that any human is capable of vile things... I'm not literally dehumanizing people in that I literally see them as subhuman.
I just have a special category on human for fascists that deserve nothing but pain and death because that's what they are intent on inflicting on the world. They need to be stopped before they literally murder millions of innocent people.
fair and cogent reply. i’ll take it. :)
Much more well put than I could do myself.
"They are no longer human" doesn't count as dehumanizing? Is english not your first language?
Those seeking to destroy humanity are not worthy of our humanity.
Are you saying that to defeat Nazis we must become Nazis?
If that’s how your spongy brain wants to see it, sure. By that logic, all of the WWII veterans are actually Nazis.
WW2 veterans didn't dehumanize people, wtf are you talking about?
They just shot them and turned them into hamburger
They treated them as enemies, not non-humans. Its an important distinction. Its the reason they were the good guys and you're not.
What do you think a Nazi actually is? Because it isn't "stop fascists from killing other people."
Why do you keep equating these two things? It's weird.
Why are you using Nazi tactics when you supposedly want to stop Nazis?
What "Nazi tactics" am I using, specifically? I would love to know.
Dehumanization
Equating what I'm saying to Nazi dehumanization is extremely disingenuous. One is about trying to prevent mass murder based on bigotry, and the other is about perpetrating it. But nuance is hard I guess.