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Newsom is trolling Trump with his own tweets
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Why is fucking Newsom, the most neoliberal establishment motherfucker to ever walk the earth, the first Dem to figure out you can take these assholes down by just using their tactics against them?
It's like if Pelosi just walked down onto the the chamber floor and just started yelling "okay boomer" every time someone tried to talk, while going the fortnight dance.
I don't know, I think Tim Waltz figured it out and then the Harris campaign shut him down. The whether or not it works or not I'm not sure. Certainly doesn't look like anything's been taken down.
TL;DR: calling fascists weird was and is EXTREMELY effective messaging and pivoting away from it was probably one of the top reasons for Trump being able to infest the white house again.
100%. Without a shadow of a doubt. Never underestimate the ability of the DNC to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory in order to please the owner donors and/or uphold arbitrary institutional norms.
It ABSOLUTELY worked. Harris/Walz were far ahead in the polls while they were still calling weirdos weird and then they nosedived when they switched from that to the 1992 playbook.
The Trump messaging works by convincing people that the fascists are the only normal ones/the in group in a world taken over by abnormal and immoral people of the out groups
Even SUGGESTING that they might be just another out group rather than the only in group weakens the "everything our Dear Leaders say or do is correct because it's against the weirdos" narrative and more importantly the feeling of belonging and of being on the right side of history that the leaders of the cult have instilled in the followers.
Regular people have no problem being called weird (in fact, a lot of us actively celebrate our weirdness), but a fascist movement simply falls apart without the solid conviction that they're the only sane and normal ones.
This went a little longer than I intended, so I'll add a TL;DR at the top lol
Well said!
Somehow I had never made this connection until just now! It always struck me that just calling them "weird" seemed so effective, since it's not even really an insult, but this makes complete sense.
It depends on how much contempt they have for electorate. And their propensity to learn anything.
So in other words, Newsom IS going to be the nominee unless Hakeem Jeffries somehow becomes presidential material by developing a personality between now and 2028.
Personally I hope he Jeb!s the primary. The republican electorate very quickly figured out when an establishment candidate was being rammed through and rejected it spectacularly. Let's hope the Dems follow suit this time. There's still a lot of time between now and the primary.
Didn’t learn much from 2016.
If they won’t learn on their own, they must be taught.
If newsom goes for it, like it or not, he will be the nominee.
He has a massive war chest and ability to fundraise and has national name recognition.
He is a centrist corporate dweeb, but at least he is fighting… which is more than can be said for 95% of democratic politicians.
I won’t be voting for him in the primary, but he is a better choice over Harris or Clinton
Do they even need primaries at all anymore? We'll just vote for whoever they select because it'll be less damaging than the Republican.
I really can’t stand Newsom. The guy is some of the worst aspects of the Dem party (note I did not say “the left”) Virtually guarantees they’ll run him.
Because he's also a narcissistic snake who has been self-interested and corrupt for years.
Which sadly, is exactly what we need to oppose the narcissistic snakes in power right now. We're just fortunate that he is finding success and support to his liking in being the opposition we wish we had.
I support the tactic broadly, I hope the rest of the so-called Democrats pick it up and start mountain an actual "get in the dirty trenches" opposition that declaws Trump's political capital.
Genuine question: I don't know much about Newsom. From what I have heard & read about him online, he seemed to be left relative to the Democratic establishment, meaning left to the party officials like Schumer (or someone like Obama) but obviously still right compared to Sanders or AOC.
Is that wrong? Because most neoliberal establishment would for me rather mean at least as right as Schumer and more in the direction of someone like Joe Manchin.
That's a fair question.
He's been pretty consistently against the LGBTQ community. He's been pandering to conservatives in the recent democrat trend of just moving right in response to 2024. He's anti worker and anti homeless but pro surveillance. He's also just a shitty person who only cares about himself, he broke COVID quarantine for a party and cheated on his wife. People think he's progressive because California but he's basically a conservative by any reasonable metric.