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submitted 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) by Timely_Jellyfish_2077@programming.dev to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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[-] pirat@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Who wants to run scaled down desktop apps on their phone

I believe the UI of most apps could be made to work well with phone display sizes and resolutions.

and who wants a terminal on a phone either?

Well, I do! It's great when you want to connect, do or automate something there isn't an app for. For now I sometimes run Termux on Android. Among smartphone users in general I'm probably an edge case, but among Linux users, I must say, using a terminal on the phone doesn't seem that crazy to me.

[-] kittenzrulz123 1 points 13 hours ago

It doesn't matter if they look ok (they still look out of place and feel wrong), the fact is they're built with keyboards in mind. Hell even on phosh you'll see keyboard shortcut indicators.

[-] pirat@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

What stops anyone from making new GUIs, maybe even a new framework for doing that, optimised for touchscreens rather than keyboard and mouse?

Maybe I'm just unknowledgeable, but to me that idea doesn't sound very far-fetched.

[-] kittenzrulz123 2 points 11 hours ago

Because people keep defending the keyboard and mouse based mobile interfaces and as long as people and devs say its ok there will be no incentive to make proper mobile interfaces.

[-] ShoeThrower@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

A single app can have separate interfaces for mobile and desktop. Mobile/Touch interfaces are uncommon right now because linux on mobile isn't ready, and it is extra work to make a separate GUI.

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2025
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