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How One Woman Is Stalling Green Energy Projects in Oregon
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We need to find a better green energy. It takes so much petroleum to make and maintain solar panels and wind farms. If the energy industry actually thought these were viable solutions they would be everywhere. I'm not just going to complain about it I'm going into electrical manufacturing and I'm going to do my best to fix it
Edit: thank you all for telling me off. It was needed. I'm still going to work to fix the energy industry someday though 😋
Maybe when you get out of school you’ll come back here and apologize for your ignorance.
I'm already sorry. But again it's something I'm going to fix
You’re not gonna fix anything. Climate change in global fascism is going to kill any chance of your future. You should focus on weapons for the Civil Wars
Oh you sweet summer child
Thank you. I don't think I've ever been called that before. I understand my ignorance but I have to work on that first before I can fix anything
The fuck have you been smoking?
Weed
That's why I think home wind and solar are the answer, combos if necessary. Solar is getting way better and everyone maintaining their own system would be great. They already make lots of products that could do this. People just have to have battery set ups, and batteries are getting much better too.
Unfortunately wind doesn't have nearly the same room for growth or cost benefits at small scale. Noise, maintenance requirements, and size/intrusiveness mean it's not really an option at residential scale.
I have solar panels on my house and have spent exactly zero petroleum (or carbon at all!) to maintain them. They have also allowed me to disconnect my natural gas connection and heat my house in the winter with electricity.
I hope to do something similar someday but it still cost petroleum to make them. I'm envisioning an alternative. Wind turbines do cost petroleum to maintain. You have to lubricate them. But I don't see why we can't lubricate them with something more environmentally friendly
This feels like you're focusing on a tiny tiny issue of carbon use generated during manufacturing of solar panels while ignoring the massive massive issue of carbon use during operation of nearly every other utility traditional power generation system.
All of the petroleum used to lubricate a windmill over its entire lifetime is likely less than the petroleum used in a single day of a traditional petroleum based power generation system of the same capacity.
Can you explain why you're hyperfocused on the small consumption while ignoring the massively larger consumption of alternatives?
I was expecting you to talk about embodied energy in the steel, concrete, copper, composites, silicon, glass, and the diesel trucks, cranes, and helicopters used for installation and maintenance. Most of those could be greenified once there's enough renewables around.
Nope. You care about lubricant. They use stuff all, don't even burn it, and it's not a particularly impossible thing to replace - I'm sure you could synthesize replacements from corn alcohol though you'd still probably need lithium, molybdenum, or whatever other fancy additives are in use.
They used to use whale fat as lubricant.
Congratulations; dumbest take I've seen all year.